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Freedom For Great Britain!
Topic Started: Jun 24 2016, 08:37 AM (8,081 Views)
Hisui
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Seccy "no fun allowed" Secundum

kitn - firstly, you need to understand that the arguments might be simple, but they're why people voted.
Draco - 1) Before my time. 2) Using the argument that 'it's ok because we did it first', it would be ok for me to go into the US with a bunch of drones and start massacring people.

Kiki, I cited my sources earlier, but nobody cared.

Slime - actually, there isn't. That was one of the more extreme cases, true, but the EU judge ruled that it would be against his human rights to separate him from the cat.
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Skylin
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2 Lewd 4 U

Seccy you said they should go back where they came from. So they can die? How is that a solution?

You said they should go to Africa. Africa is one of the poorest places in the world with loads of their own conflict. How are they supposed to support refugees en masse? But I guess they're not white/British people there in Africa so who cares.

The West is the part of the world most suited to accommodating refugees.

Honestly in the end this is all ironic when you think about how vast the British Empire was and how they barged into everyone's land, and now that you get some people in Britain itself people complain.
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Kula Diamond
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atlus tracts

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Jul 7 2016, 05:06 PM
And don't bypass the censor.
my post didn't autocensor for some reason (we have a filter for that f-word right) :(
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Dracobolt
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Incorrigible

Yeah, that's fixed now. =)

:mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn:
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Saturos
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heart-under-blade

Just a reminder for everyone (myself included) to tone down the personal attacks and non-serious responses, regardless of your personal feelings on the issue. If you believe you're in the right, then the facts and your argument itself should be sufficient. If it's someone who's not swayed by facts and reason, then it's probably best to just drop it and walk away.

Seccy, the only source you cited was a link to an article about Scotland and a second referundum. "I saw it on BBC" is not a source, because it's not something that can be independently verified by us; you're still relying on us to take your word for it.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/27/world/europe/brexit-economy-immigration-britain-european-union-democracy.html?_r=0
Leaving aside that people can be wrong or mislead, as happened in this case (immigrants are overall beneficial to the economy), apparently only 33% of Leave voters in one poll voted for reasons of immigration.

Furthermore, Seccy, what makes you think that illegal immigrants sneaking into the country would be any way affected by changing the law? If it was already illegal for them to get in, how is Brexit going to tighten controls?
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Taking people out and stopping people from getting in are two whole different things, Seccy. I'm yet to see a single point you've made that would actually prevent any illegals getting in, all you've suggesting is sending them back to the warzone or Africa to die. The "better infrastructure" argument is a joke, there isn't anywhere with better infrastructure to deal with it than the west.

Immigration is not a major issue in the UK. We are not seeing a sudden mass influx, and since this is usually the made argument, they're not taking our jobs, particularly because there's no jobs to take but that's irrelevant to the point at hand and most certainly not going to be helped by becoming insular, because all we're doing now is driving business away, and the pound dropping through the leaving's nuking our infrastructure. It's going to become a problem as a result, but it wasn't before and shouldn't have been.

I'm still holding out for a second vote, personally, considering how close the poll was and how low the turnout. And the ridiculous amount of people who came out afterwards and said they regretted voting leave (which is really dumb, but that's another topic).
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Hisui
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Seccy "no fun allowed" Secundum

I made a post that addressed your first point, but Satty (or someone else) deleted it for some bizarre reason.
And why do people keep holding out for a 2nd referendum? It was said before the vote there wouldn't be a 2nd one. It was said after the vote there wouldn't be a 2nd one. Both possible Prime Ministers have said their won't be a 2nd one.

The vote happened, we're leaving, the end. The bleating by remainers about a 2nd one got old after the first day.
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Saturos
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heart-under-blade

Luckily for you, Seccy, the Admin CP keeps track of all moderations and posts deletions, including what topic, who did it, and when. And I can 100% tell you that no staff deleted any of your posts in this topic. Your computer might've borked and not posted it, or maybe you forgot to click post. Beats me.

So, I'm afraid you'll have to make that post again. I'm curious too what your logic or evidence is, so by all means.

Seccy, please watch your word choice and avoid using the word "bleating," it's disrespectful. If you bait like that, you shouldn't be surprised when you get harsh responses.
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Seoulbowz
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Hisui
Jul 8 2016, 05:32 AM
And why do people keep holding out for a 2nd referendum? It was said before the vote there wouldn't be a 2nd one. It was said after the vote there wouldn't be a 2nd one. Both possible Prime Ministers have said their won't be a 2nd one.

The vote happened, we're leaving, the end. The bleating by remainers about a 2nd one got old after the first day.
Nigel Farage said before the referendum that a narrow 'Remain' victory should lead to a 2nd referendum. So it's not unreasonable for people to think that a narrow 'Leave' victory should lead to a 2nd referendum.
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Hisui
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Seccy "no fun allowed" Secundum

Yeah, but nobody ever takes him seriously. If it had been remain, I'd say that the leavers who wanted a 2nd one were delusional as well.
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Momentime
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uh oh

Isn't Farage the guy who was the most ardent supporter of Leave? And you're actually saying people don't take him seriously?
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The Abominator
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Just so you know Hisui, NATO is not allied with Assad.
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Hisui
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Seccy "no fun allowed" Secundum

Momentime
Jul 8 2016, 10:24 AM
Isn't Farage the guy who was the most ardent supporter of Leave? And you're actually saying people don't take him seriously?
Yeah. Some see him as a hero, but he's really full of it. The only politician who's considered more of a joke is Sturgeon (everywhere outside of Scotland she's seen as a racist neo-Nazi).

Basically, Farage is the Piers Morgan of politics. It would be like saying Trump approves of workers rights (a hypothetical) - just because he approves of a good cause doesn't mean that he's taken seriously.
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