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Fallout 4!
Topic Started: Jun 3 2015, 05:31 PM (1,353 Views)
Asphodel
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I finally saw that E3 trailer/teaser for this game. I had no idea that Fallout 4 was this gorgeous.

Voiced protagonist a la Hawke? YES. So glad Bethesda is focusing more on fleshing out the player character and not just the setting/lore! Makes me very hopeful for Elder Scrolls VI!

And on that note:

...Do I really, really have to be a happily married dad or mom at the start of this game? Please tell me no, guys. Say it isn't true. I would opt out of this on principle alone if my characters' backstories were all so predetermined, post-apocalyptic Boston or no.
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Well they clearly want to go with the caramel colored futuristic vision of what like the after war people had about the future. An almost surreal colorful happy marriage, as if taken from a commercial on dishwashers, is kinda fitting imo.

But it is an rpg. You can always rp that the happy marriage is just a fake picture of the real story. Your marriage is actually a hell and you're being oppressed by your loved one. The war, and death of your loved one, actually gave you freedom in more ways than one.
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I suppose it does make it easier for Bethesda to craft a more compelling story if the protagonist isn't a blank slate. The idyllic intro is pretty captivating, and seeing it all crash down and result in a nuclear wasteland is jarring and effective. I agree on that point. Don't get me wrong - there are narrative benefits to what Bethesda is doing here.

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But it is an rpg. You can always rp that the happy marriage is just a fake picture of the real story. Your marriage is actually a hell and you're being oppressed by your loved one. The war, and death of your loved one, actually gave you freedom in more ways than one.


But I'm not so sure about this. Headcanons are fine when there's enough room to maneuver. Bethesda's other games, Elder Scrolls in particular, are conducive to this. Just enough is set in stone to get you started on developing your character. In Skyrim, I have an Imperial girl who dreams of becoming a powerful sorceress and journeys to Skyrim to study magic without restriction; I also have a Dunmeri nobleman who goes to Skyrim to see if he can manipulate the civil war to the benefit of his persecuted people in the east. I also have Gensor Without Armor, who kills everyone indiscriminately because he can!

My problem with Fallout 4's premise is that so much of your character is established right at the beginning by circumstance alone, that if I tried to make multiple characters with that kind of variety, it would just be justification after justification. There's only so much headcanon can do before it becomes an exercise in just disregarding things you don't like. I wound up disregarding most of Dragon Age 3 because of it.
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How do you manage to read books

I'm much more excited for this game than I was before. Building bases is my jam.
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Books don't give me a character creation menu and let me run around with my own motives in mind.

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I guess you need a game with no story. Play minecraft or scrabble
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Scrabble is the best!

I'm just looking for a game with a great world, great story, and somehow, the freedom to fully shape my protagonist, who will ideally be a part of that world instead of being the exception to the rule. Bethesda and Bioware are my (very imperfect) go-tos, so I guess this is just frustrating for me. =\

Maybe an MMO would do me some good, idk
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Knowing Bethesda you'll be able to play around a lot more, both in the world before the bombs and in the vault. I bet you can be the biggest asshole to your wife/husband and possibly even choose to not feed the baby.

Within the games setting, it is a game with "a great world, great story, and somehow, the freedom to fully shape my protagonist".

If you can disregard the opening of Skyrim and that you're the dragonborn, you won't have a problem with disregarding the marriage opening and the main quest in Fallout 4. As usual, you'll probably be able to create a save right before you exit the vault and look at that, now you can skip the entire opening and just be a character who enters the world for no other reason than the one you create.
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I believe that rather than you being in a happy marriage, the ones you play at the beginning are your parents, and that ends up leading how/what you look like. So you can RP what you want with that in mind. Besides, as has been stated, this is already largely the case with previous Elder Scrolls games... just ignore that you're the Nerevar/Dragonborn/Hero of Kvatch and play it your way ignoring the main quest. Seems like this game will have plenty of freedom with which to do so.

If you really want to get full control of who your character is and what they do... I don't know, you're probably largely out of luck. I'd suggest MMOs, since I played on a bunch of RP servers with RP characters in World of Warcraft. They also have direct plotlines and stuff that you're sort of following... but since there's also twenty million other people being fed the same story, it's really easy on RP servers to just disregard that and build your character appropriately. Other than that... I don't know what to suggest.

But again, just imagine away whatever kind of chosen hero or happily married descendants you want from the intro and play it your way anyway. Seems like there will be plenty of options with which to do so.
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They actually showed during the gameplay that you are the adult you create, not the child. Somehow in the vault you survive 200 years. The robot remarked on it too
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Adachi is not amused.

I take back what I said, then. Intriguing. You're probably a robot or a clone or some other messed up experiment... after all, the Vaults were never built to save people.
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Within the games setting, it is a game with "a great world, great story, and somehow, the freedom to fully shape my protagonist".


You're right, King. I've no doubt Bethesda will create something fascinating with this game. I'm just touchy when it comes to freedom in character creation and I easily get upset over things like this. And as for disregarding Skyrim's opening at Helgen...well, the reason I can so easily do that is because of alternate start mods. So I guess I'm giving TES an unfair advantage in this comparison! =P

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If you really want to get full control of who your character is and what they do... I don't know, you're probably largely out of luck. I'd suggest MMOs, since I played on a bunch of RP servers with RP characters in World of Warcraft. They also have direct plotlines and stuff that you're sort of following... but since there's also twenty million other people being fed the same story, it's really easy on RP servers to just disregard that and build your character appropriately. Other than that... I don't know what to suggest.


Well, I can usually accept slight constraints on the player character. I mean, I was okay with the "PC as Courier" aspect of New Vegas, because it allowed me to define my character's backstory however I wanted. That was a nebulous space all my own. But I admit expecting total freedom in that regard is unrealistic on my part. It's a pipe dream, but in the meantime, I'll take the next best thing.

(Also I'm way too shy to play MMOs.)
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The biggest thing I am excited for out of this game is support for mods on consoles. More life to the game. (That it gives me hope that perhaps Minecraft will get the same treatment one day.)
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Jun 17 2015, 05:06 PM
The biggest thing I am excited for out of this game is support for mods on consoles. More life to the game. (That it gives me hope that perhaps Minecraft will get the same treatment one day.)
expect them to be limited though

since consoles don't have the same freedom as PC on the good side there won't be pervy nude mods i hope
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Wheey! I've became a human being!! I am very handsam!

probably less that (ps4 and Xbox have essentially PC architecture at this point) and more that it will require all the testing and stuff that any other type of DLC on consoles has to have before Sony and Microsoft will let them be on their systems. That stuff costs money so it will have to be heavily curated by Bethesda.
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