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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS
Topic Started: Jul 10 2014, 12:09 PM (51,307 Views)
Kula Diamond
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atlus tracts

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Nov 7 2014, 11:12 PM
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I don't think characters from Kid Icarus are really allowed to say this given their own series's roster in this game
but dark pit is just a glorified alt

like the other clones (ok dr mario has an entirely different move but whatever)
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Other characters have their strengths, but I don't believe any of them possess the sheer versatility of Rosalina, Sheik, ZSS, and (to a lesser extent) Greninja. Yoshi, the good Falcon, and others I could see reaching A-tier, but none other than those four could I see reaching the level of dominance Fox/Falco had in Melee, nor what Meta Knight had in Brawl.
Once again, I turn out to be amazing at picking characters. All four of them made my top 6 lol
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Giraffes are adorable.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrlHPDx-LRQ[/youtube]

No talking about the dog laughing at you? Please bring back Snake as DLC please.
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The Sin Thesis


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Nov 4 2014, 06:38 PM
The Sin Thesis
Nov 1 2014, 09:59 AM
Tiers as far as I can see so far as far as characters' usefulness. Imagine 1 and 2 are pretty close, then a gap, then 3-4 are pretty close, a gap, then 5.

1 (highest): Rosalina (Luma covers so much), Little Mac (that armor)

2: [Marth/Lucina, Robin, Robin, Shulk] (disjoint hitboxes, tipping, spikes, etc.), [Zero Suit Samus, Greninja, Sheik] (sheer speed), Villager (edge guard side smash, pocket, multiple recoveries and projectiles)

3: [Ike, Link, Toon Link](disjoint hitboxes, but slower or shorter range), Falcon, Bowser Jr, Rob, Spacies

4: Meta Knight (range nerfs!), (Dark) Pit, Samus, Diddy Kong, Olimar, Zelda

5 (don't feel like they have enough useful tools): Pikachu, Ganondorf, Palutena

???: Everyone else
Diddy Kong is nowhere near that low. Not a lot of people use him but the few who have have been dominating. He won a tournament a couple days ago.

Top 5 atm is looking something like:
Rosalina & Luma
Sheik
Zero Suit Samus
Yoshi
Greninja

Captain Falcon, Diddy Kong and Bowser might also be in the running. Lucario, Peach, Wario, Fox, Mario and Jiggs are also all pretty high.

Villager is likely not that high, mainly due to issues landing KOs. Ike is also not that high, he's probably nearer to the bottom due to overall sluggishness, lack of approach options and no method of dealing with projectiles. Robin and Shulk are weird cases; I'm honestly not sure if they're gonna be high or low on the tier lists.

Mac is also a weird case. I can't say for sure if he's really top of the line on FD/Omega stages as I haven't had enough experience fighting really good Mac players, but on just about any other stage he's nowhere near top as he can easily be forced to take to their air. Then, he's done.
Haven't seen anything from Diddy Kong yet worth considering a threat.

After messing around a bit, I think I might put Falcon in 2 and move the swordies to just above him. I also don't think that Ike is placed very high at all. He's in my mid-tier.

I think I might stick Charizard in high 3 or low 2 as well.

I still think that a theoretical 'perfect Mac' would beat most anyone else playing optimally just by abusing his super armor and OHKO power. His feet never leave the ground if he's playing right.
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I want to play Smash with you guys! Who plays?
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

I play.
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The Sin Thesis


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-N2oQSS03A[/youtube]

I found a Diddy Kong that I fear, and it's played by a 10-year-old girl.
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

It's revealed to be a publicity stunt.

http://i.imgur.com/99STMYw.png?1

See the later pages of this Neogaf topic for details: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=929326&page=15

A shame, now it will add fuel to the fire that is girls suck at video games.
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The Sin Thesis


Weaaaak.
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Thorn
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ShinyGirafarig
Nov 9 2014, 04:23 PM
I play.
Cool, added you. I'm assuming you play, too, Sin Thesis? I added you, too.
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ShinyGirafarig
Nov 9 2014, 04:27 PM
A shame, now it will add fuel to the fire that is girls suck at video games.
Or it will add fuel to the fire that cynical PR bullshit is bullshit.

:luna:
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

Here is a link that details the stuff. Gamestop or Nintendo of America? Why just why?

http://smashboards.com/threads/karissa-the-destroyer-was-a-marketing-hoax.377089/?ckattempt=1
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heart-under-blade

I'm not too bothered, it was a cute little publicity stunt... but yeah, definitely going to make people more cynical about PR things.
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Super Slash


ShinyGirafarig
Nov 9 2014, 12:39 AM
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrlHPDx-LRQ[/youtube]

No talking about the dog laughing at you? Please bring back Snake as DLC please.
I love this. The Shulk conversation was awesome.
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I suppose that appearance in the convo rules out Chrom as DLC/Skin for Ike. (Also, they Complain Chrom has no recovery move...like Aether?)

I just wanted him to appear so Freddie could appear in a final smash and say his 'Pick a God and pray' critical.

Oh well, I still have Lucina and Robin. (Although why Male Robin gets the scale tipping taunt wrong is beyond me :S)

Who do you all main? Anyone you guys perticularly dislike?

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I main Captain Falcon.

I hate every character with a counter move and all of the sword fighters who have high priority moves (All of them).
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You won't like me then, I've been playing a lot of Lucina. I do understand why some people dislike the counter, espically as it seems to have decent kill potential.

I do enjoy playing with/against the Captain, always something amazing whenever a Falcon Punch is involved. (Does a FP have superarmour? Or is that just Ganondorfs equlivent? I saw a video of Ganon withstanding a betdown from Little Mac and finishing the move without flinching)
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The Falcon Punch has a really tiny amount of super armor, but has full armour during the actual punch, but not for long. Ganon's Warlock Punch takes a few hits to interrupt. I've been mainly practising his up-tilt edge meteors and it works really well on a lot of fighters.

I think the worst part about counters is that they can be used in midair, which can really ruin a lot of approaches.
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Midair counter? Yeahhhhh, guilty! I'd like to think the Mario I played before raged quite hard when I stole his victory from him. I'm a terrible person.

Thinking I might try Dr Mario, I can never get over the lack of Mario tornado from Smash 64 and can't seem to kill as Mario, so clone it is!
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I suppose that appearance in the convo rules out Chrom as DLC/Skin for Ike. (Also, they Complain Chrom has no recovery move...like Aether?)
Well, Ike DOES have a Chrom-like recolour. It looks more noticeable in the Wii U version, though.

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Who do you all main?
King Dedede, despite my current username... Mr. Game & Watch has fallen to my 3rd most used, lol. My 2nd most used is Pit.

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Anyone you guys perticularly dislike?
In terms of character, I don't particularly dislike anyone, except maaaaybe Sonic. In terms of playstyle, though, I can't stomach Olimar, Rosalina, Ness, Little Mac and Zelda. Their playstyles just do not work for me at all.
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