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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS
Topic Started: Jul 10 2014, 12:09 PM (51,345 Views)
Saturos
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-His Up B now just goes straight up


Oh god, Luigitis

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Sep 6 2014, 06:17 AM
Shulk and Palutena are OP (expected after their trailers)
inb4they'retheicemenofthisgame
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Phoenix7
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Odyssey, ya see~ Odyssey, ya see~

I need some Rosalina impressions

Sort your priorities Japan
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Rosalina was reportedly pretty bad, from the invitational. Could just be that they didn't have enough time with her to tell, and maybe she's been changed since. Dunno.
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Wheey! I've became a human being!! I am very handsam!

Her final smash seems absolutely terrible

Odds are people just didn't know how to use luma yet
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The Sin Thesis


Smash Brothers 3DS will support the C-stick on New 3DS but NOT the Circle Pad Pro for the original 3DS/XL

What the dick, Nintendo.
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More people reporting in now that it's day 2 of the demo. Apparently Toys 'r' Us opened at 7, even though the demo is supposed to start at 11 lol

-Captain Falcon plays more like he did in Melee. His Knee is easier to sweetspot as well.

-MegaMan is a defensive zoner-style, big surprise. Severely lacking approach options, but he has very little landing lag on all aerials except dair. His Fair is very good.

-Fox's Up Air is better than it was at E3. He's fast but weak, though his Nair has good knockback.

-Sonic is still terrible

-Marth nerfed big time. Range is much shorter, no longer as good at spacing for tipping. He is also weaker

-Meta Knight severely nerfed, weaker, priority is down, up B has landing lag

-Yoshi buffed big-time, very good smash attacks and up air has the same effect as a sweetspotted Falcon Knee.

-Pac-Man has great aerials, down B spikes in midair. Side B is hard to control

-Ike mostly unchanged, but Aether now covers slighly more vertical distance, and some of his attacks are a little faster. Eruption's range has increased dramatically when charged, "around double" apparently

-Zelda nerfed even more. RIP

-Diddy can only have one banana out at a time; the old one disappears if you throw another

-Lucario is mostly the same, but his aerials and Smashes are faster and stronger. Still no shiny alt though :(

-Palutena 0-to-KO'd Mario O_O Is around middleweight, floaty like Samus and has average speed, has a Viridi colour alt

-Robin's Levin Sword KO'd Fox at 65%. Palutena and Robin confirmed for god(dess)-tier

-Dedede up tilt even stronger. Forward throw combos well with side B

-Peach's side B is extremely fast now, her Dsmash sucks you in like a vacuum, Rainbow is her uair

-Samus good at spacing, is now better at getting KOs

-Mega Charizard X final smash lasts about 20 seconds

-Wii Fit Trainer is "annoying", side B is weird to control

-Link is apparently good, at last. Dash attack has high KO ability, Boomerang is buffed

-Villager's axe is a great KO move

-Toon Link nerfed. Down air is slow and weak, less grab range, arrows and boomerang do less damage and knockback :(

-Shulk excellent at spacing, hold B and release to choose Monado mode.

-Greninja's usmash and fair are good KO moves

More to come
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Sep 6 2014, 09:35 PM
-Marth nerfed big time. Range is much shorter, no longer as good at spacing for tipping. He is also weaker
how could they do this
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Thanks Poui.

has a Viridi colour alt

Yessss, but too bad they couldn't do a full model alt to Viridi. She's too much smaller than Palutena ughdhfgodhg
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-The speed of the game is like a mixture of Melee and Brawl. Air speed is like a faster Brawl, with a touch of floatiness still in there. Falling speed is not as fast as Melee. However ground speed is more akin to Melee, being quicker than Brawl. Overall the speed of the game strikes a balance between the two games. I can confirm this from personal experience as well, having played the E3 build at a demo in London. I only played it for 4 minutes total but it definitely felt like it struck a comfortable balance between the two games.

-Luigi's up B still has its sweetspot, his dash attack is easier to get out of.

-Kirby buffed big time like the E3 build, "possible Top 5" according to the person reporting all this stuff

-Smash attacks in general are really good (don't know what he means by this exactly, but he probably means they feel really good to use in this game, which they do)

-Lucario's up B at a high percentage is "hilarious"

-Curiously, the Skyward Sword alt for Link Sakurai showed off a while ago is not present

-"Villager's water bucket cancelled Fox's up B and killed him"

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-Rosalina sucks without Luma

-Pikachu's recovery is faster

-Mario is good at comboing; can string 5 Uairs together!

-CHAIN GRABS ARE GONE, THANK THE GODS

-Olimar feels "much weaker"

-Diddy's Smash attacks are terrible

-Greninja stronger than E3 build, "KOs much easier"

-Charizard is awesome

-Dedede has an amazing projectile (I assume this is referring to Gordo Throw)

-Pac-Man and Mega Man are better than Sonic (he also made several comments iterating over and over that Sonic is terrible, lol)

-Palutena, Shulk and Robin are the best three characters

-Robin has brown hair alt with green robe. FE7 Tactician reference :3
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Asphodel
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Mario air game still strong.

Too hype.

Get rekt, Marth. Now I have another excuse to use Lucina instead. :awe:
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The incoming news about palutena/shulk/robin being top tier is somehow completely and utterly unsurprising to me. Range/speed/projectiles/combo potential/kill potential/recovery. Sums up everything that matters in a character. Characters with range/speed/projectiles frequently come with combo potential, and if they happen to have kill potential, too, they're instantly great. Having a good recovery is generally considered a bonus compared to having a good onstage game.

The news about zard and greninja pleases me. It was already a given that greninja would have a good neutral game, and probably a good combo game, but killing was the one thing I was worried about for him. If he has solid kill moves, he'll prob be a great character.
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When I played as Greninja in the old demo, his up smash felt very powerful, so I can confirm that one from my own experience. If it's even stronger he's really going to be a force to be reckoned with, I think. I found him a bit hard to control, but that's probably partly to do with the fact I was wrestling with the controls themselves at the time since I'm so used to a Gamecube controller. Nothing a little relearning can't fix.

Edit: Picture of Fox's Wolf alt

Edit 2: Fierce Deity Link, Santa Rosalina, Alph and pink Diddy
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Odyssey, ya see~ Odyssey, ya see~

>Alph alt and Fierce Deity, Viridi and Fire Rosalina colours

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What's this nonsense about Zelda being worse though? She was atrocious in Brawl.
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Phoenix7
Sep 7 2014, 02:51 AM
What's this nonsense about Zelda being worse though? She was atrocious in Brawl.
They mentioned few specifics, just that's she's "awful"

The only thing that's been said at all that I've seen is that the Phantom does not hit enemies close by, it spawns "about a character's length away"
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I loved Zelda in Brawl :c her back air had that deadly KO potential
Fierce Deity!Link looks like a raging badass
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Odyssey, ya see~ Odyssey, ya see~

Hopefully it's just day one impressions.

I remember when everyone said Pit and Ike were top tier in Brawl. >_>
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Thanks Poui.

<3 Ike in brawl.

That said ; -; I like Zelda! I hope the saying she's bad is just first day impressions.
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Pit is upper mid in Brawl iirc, so at least it didn't turn out as badly for him as it did for poor Ike. That said, if Ike really has had a few small buffs maybe he'll move up a bit. Very little has been said about Pit but I have my fingers crossed for mid-tier at least :c He felt really good when I played him, with a great blend of speed and power and all that's been said about him from this demo is that he's identical to E3.

And yeah, since all of this is day 1 impressions we'll see how things sort themselves out once the game comes out and the metagame develops
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That said ; -; I like Zelda! I hope the saying she's bad is just first day impressions.

Probably not. Anyone who plays zelda in melee or brawl would be able to tell pretty quickly whether she's better or worse. She's an exceedingly simple character, so if people are saying she's bad in this version of smash, there's a very good chance that she actually is. If her fair/bair are nerfed, she instantly drops a tier.

I can only think of a few moves that they could move some of her power into without it being immediately noticeable (neutral B is one of them), but her entire design basically forces her into low tier.

I should probably explain where I'm coming from on this
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