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Dragon Age: Inquisition; who's excited?
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Topic Started: Mar 9 2014, 03:28 PM (15,509 Views)
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Dec 17 2014, 08:34 AM
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- Dec 17 2014, 04:10 AM
Don't you hate it when you just wanted to talk about shoes and people act like you're married?
That happened with me and Ashley in ME1. Mega awks. That was funny with Origins. Carrying on a romance with Morrigan, and Leliana gets all pissed.
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Dec 17 2014, 05:08 PM
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the skyhold has landed
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Dec 17 2014, 05:38 PM
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Excellent. What did you think of the scene with "The Dawn Will Come"?
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Dec 23 2014, 03:41 AM
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The Dawn Will Come Talked about this a bit with Necare on Skype, but I thought the Dawn Will Come was wonderfully done, and really effective in showing how faith can be a unifying, "common ground" thing in the story. The opening with Giselle alone singing and then Cullen and everyone joining in was great. I thought it was just a little too long, and the zoom out over the camp caused my 360 to render it with not-cutscene graphics, so that was kind of lame, but it was a great moment.
Haven't started the big Orlesian court thing that costs 30 power. also started romance with Cullen. at 36 hours of playtime This game is just monstrously long, like damn. I try to do one area per play, but even that still leaves a bunch of quests unfinished.
Cullen romance is suuuuuper cute and adorable. I love how the flirting is full of awkward pauses, hesitant stares, and >implications. The flirting over the chess game was fantastic, and the confession was hnnng. Standing on the battlements, about to kiss, and then a guard comes up "SER HERE'S THE REPORT" and Cullen just has this look of unbridled rage and stares him down, while my character awkwardly fidgets off to the side. The guard gets it and then quickly retreats. My character was about to make some snarky comment, but then Cullen just wheels around and kisses her and i was like "d'awwwwwwwwwww" They're so cute.
There was another cute moment with Dorian where he's like "So I hear you have a thing for cuddly templars." And my character's like "What? >=I" and he says "Oh nothing, just one of the things that's so adorable about you." Yessss, Dorian thinks I'm adorable. 8D
The plot arc between Cassandra being a secret fan of Varric's smut and Varric writing her the new chapter was hilarious. My character just be like "olololol"
- Skyhold is swag - Dorian, Cassandra, and Varric still ideal party - Cole is cool, but not that interesting to journey with.
- Seeing Hawke and Loghain again was pretty awesome and badass, can't wait to investigate that plotline.
This game is addicting. >_> And massive.
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Dec 23 2014, 05:52 AM
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You're about as far as I am. I'm going to try to touch on all of the major areas I've unlocked before doing the Crestwood plot quest and the Orlesian court one, so it may be a while before I actually progress the story.
I'm currently doing the first "major" Josephine quest and the decision at the end is so difficult. One of those classic BioWare moments where I have to spend thirty minutes pacing around the room weighing the potential outcomes.
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Dec 23 2014, 08:34 AM
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Just did the quest with Dorian and the letter, still on the cusp of the lv. 12-15 mission. Major bro moment, and also just sat there curling and uncurling my hand when I heard what his father did. F-bomb absolutely deserved, and great paralleling on Bioware's part to the whole "cure the gay" nonsense. Managed to get them to talk it out, though, and had Dorian Greatly Approve by telling him he was brave to go against all that. Managed to assert the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP in a real way, and his speech to that extent was pretty touching. The feels are real. It was interesting that there was the option to get mad at him for leading you on, but the way I was running it, Inquisitor knew full well he was gay (man seriously, do you SEE how he looks at Felix?), and the mutual flirtation was just fun and teasing. Also Cullen still making my panties wet, etc.
Currently weighing whether to do the Orlesian court plot or the Crestwood shenanigans. Both are level 12-15, so it's definitely justified...
Also, been playing on Normal now, and breezing through without a care in the world. Double Barrier specialist mages too stronk.
Uuuugh literally too much stuff to do, my OCD is dying. Stupid sidequests. :U I'm just going to advance the main plot next. I've been doing a lot of adventuring and demon fighting, so I'll probably go with the Orlesian court option. muh fancy balls
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Dec 23 2014, 07:42 PM
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>spoiler >Loghain
wtf is wrong with you
Also, with my second female elf playthrough I was going to romance Josephine, because I meant to do that first then liked Cassandra more, but apparently there's no decent sex scene and, honestly, my inquisitors deserve better. So...Cullen?
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Dec 23 2014, 08:00 PM
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- Dec 23 2014, 07:42 PM
>spoiler >Loghain
wtf is wrong with you
Also, with my second female elf playthrough I was going to romance Josephine, because I meant to do that first then liked Cassandra more, but apparently there's no decent sex scene and, honestly, my inquisitors deserve better. So...Cullen? What did he do? I killed him off in literally every Origins run.
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Dec 23 2014, 09:43 PM
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more of that spoiler, tying Origins ending and Inquisition Loghain is the hero we deserve. I went into that mission in Origins all raring to kill his ass, but got flatlined by his complete logic and obvious competence when it comes to rallying the truth. Sure he's an amoral bastard, but that was exactly what was needed at the time. I understand where he was coming from, and having him fight as atonement seemed good enough to me. His camp talk was super good though, and hearing him talking about Anora was sweet. By contrast, Aleister was kind of helpless and was unable to look at the situation coolly, so yeah. Suck my dick Aleister, you suck
So yeah, having Loghain back was awesome. It seems they changed his voice actor, or he couldn't do the same kind of delivery. Also they changed his model a lot, and I miss the old one (rather, he got a haircut).
As for who to romance in Inquisition... yeah, I really don't like Josephine that much. Or rather, thus far, I don't have much occasion to like her. Cullen's pretty great, but there's also Iron Bull and Solas, Bane. Though the latter doesn't seem like your type.
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Dec 24 2014, 03:30 AM
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Dude, Alistair is the guy. Of course he acts like a child, he basically is. He's still the best.
Also, Josephine is really cool and all, but her actual romance line is just kind of eh. Ehhhhh. Solas, no way, total scrub. Bull is my dragon-fighting BFF forever. Forever
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Dec 24 2014, 04:54 AM
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- Dec 23 2014, 09:43 PM
more of that spoiler, tying Origins ending and Inquisition Loghain is the hero get out
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Dec 24 2014, 03:47 PM
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^This guy knows what's up
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Jan 1 2015, 04:10 AM
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Romping around the Emerald Graves, not giving a [radio edit]. A lot of complaints about the sidequests have been surfacing recently, but I really don't mind them at all. Even if the maps were empty I would still be skipping around and enjoying the scenery. The "collect ten bear asses" missions just get completed along the way anyway.
80 hours in and I haven't even progressed the story at all since Skyhold. The focus for me right now is companion quests and preliminary exploration of all regions. I will never finish this game.
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Story developments around the time you reach Skyhold Since when is Orlais in the middle of a civil war? Everyone is talking about it and the impetus for going to most of these new regions is to address that conflict. I've been reading codex entries religiously as I collect them and I still have no idea when this Gaspard character became relevant.
Also also, I picked up a letter near a Red Templar camp signed by a Knight-Captain Carroll. Like, Carroll from Origins? The one who ferries you to the Circle Tower? ohshitohshitohshit
EDIT: Holy shit, I just discovered what Cassandra likes to read in her spare time. Most hilarious conversation yet.
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Jan 2 2015, 08:43 AM
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Just completed Here Lies the Abyss.
I am so disappointed that it's actually pissing me off.
Spoiler: click to toggle The Wardens-turn-to-demon-summoning premise felt way too forced to be believable, even with the Calling justification, and the revelation of what really happened at the Conclave was so, so underwhelming. Corypheus's badass factor plummeted in that one flashback scene showing exactly what happened to the Divine, and the whole thing with the Inquisitor picking up the orb as if it were a bowling ball was so awful. The choice between Hawke and Loghain was probably the easiest major decision I've made so far, and the final decision regarding the fate of the Grey Wardens had a dulled impact because I couldn't give two shits about the Wardens and neither could my Inquisitor as far as roleplaying was concerned. But since she's essentially Fantasy Shepard, roleplaying only goes so far and I had to make a choice I didn't feel strongly about either way. I kicked them back to the Anderfels for the lulz, justifying my decision with "well, Solas and Cole persuaded her in the Fade that keeping them around wasn't the best idea."
BUT. The Fade itself, as well as the whispers of Corypheus to your party throughout, was amazing. Pity about the rest.
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Jan 2 2015, 09:14 AM
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Here Lies the Abyss That's the Nightmare whispering to you throughout, isn't it? Not Corypheus.
I agree that what happened in the Conclave was underwhelming, but I think that's intentional. Because reality, fact, is disappointing when compared to the myths. It wasn't a miracle of Andraste that you were saved, maybe it was just coincidence. Corypheus wasn't all powerful, he botched a ritual. It wasn't Andraste who led you out of the fade, it was Justinia (btw, saw that coming once I saw the shape of Justinia's hat). So all the myths and images that the Inquisition and the game set up are all kind of punctured through at once, leaving you with a bit of a hollow feeling.
I think the Nightmare was an absolutely fantastic creation, and absolutely one of the true highlights of the game. The way he looks into everyone's souls, and the reality of him being a good spirit that went bad, so to speak. Also that everyone sees the mini-nightmares are their worst fears. My Inquisitor's "laugh in the face of danger" troll remarks were great, though. "I CONTROL THE WHOLE DEMON ARMY" "Oh, so if we banish you we beat the demon army. Thanks, Mr. Worst Fears! 8D" "UUUUUUUUUUUUURGH" Jester option all day e'ery day.
But to me, that's in keeping with DA and how it regards faith. The Maker is absent from the world, so either you believe his hand and will are in the workings or not.
I have mixed feelings on the Warden/demon-summoning thing. It's a good explanation for the future, but it definitely sacrifices some of the badassness of the Wardens. I had studied the history perk, so I was able to give a rousing speech about the pride and history of the Wardens and turn them all against Buttface there. Clarel facing down the Archdemon was sooooo badass. Gets chomped and ain't give a [radio edit], she nukes it from beneath. *I Tranquil'd Buttface later because wow, if anyone deserves it you can take it right up the ass. No martyr's death for you.
Echoing Asphodel, the Hawke vs. Loghain choice was an extremely easy one, even if I was like "Oh man they're actually going to do this." Hawke is still young, the Champion, and I can't do that to Merrill. Loghain was a hero, but it was a great chance for him to seize the moment of atonement.
The choice with the Grey Wardens was much harder, but I decided to take them on despite the risk. My Inquisitor's pretty accepting of faults, not in a benevolent faith-way (though she does believe), but more in looking at the flawed human side of things. And I still have a lot of respect for the Grey Wardens, even without their leaders. I can't forget the last Blight. And I figured if I banish them off the country, it's that much easier for Corypheus to get his hands on them.
Companion Quests after that quest - Varric's was great, and set the conspiracy theories in my head a-whirring. Holy shit Bianca, as in THE Bianca? I got the impression it's a case of unrequited love, and that's so great. - Cole's plot was also great, the fear of binding. I considered for a good five or ten minutes over that choice at the end, and eventually went with the "human" choice. My character has always gravitated to the more down-to-earth, compassionate choices, and giving people chances to decide for themselves over what's "objectively" right. Cole and Varric certainly seemed happy with the decision. - Cullen. Man Cullen. So much feels in this relationship, and the whole temptation of addiction thing is super relevant. Going to his childhood home is great. Cullen's one of the few with whom my Inquisitor can drop her snarkguard and be more openly compassionate. - Talking to Bull and smacking the shit out of him with a stick and meeting the Chargers was great. If Cullen's woobieness brings out my Inquisitor's caring side, Bull definitely amps her up. Though she's still troll-y.
One of the best parts of this game, I feel, is getting to know my Inquisitor. Like, as I RP with her, finding out what her biases are, where she draws the line, where she has a soft spot, and what kind of choices she's like to make in hard situations. And of course, since these choices are sometimes (but not always! I might feel I'm gravitating towards one thing, but my Inquisitor is going towards another) informed by my own instinct, this is also a process of learning about myself. I think it's already surpassed DA2, and we'll see if it can get past DA: O. Gameplay was more fun in DA: 2 for some reason, but it's still fun here.
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Jan 2 2015, 02:31 PM
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Just completed Here Lies the Abyss. I am so disappointed that it's actually pissing me off. Spoiler: click to toggle The Wardens-turn-to-demon-summoning premise felt way too forced to be believable, even with the Calling justification, and the revelation of what really happened at the Conclave was so, so underwhelming. Corypheus's badass factor plummeted in that one flashback scene showing exactly what happened to the Divine, and the whole thing with the Inquisitor picking up the orb as if it were a bowling ball was so awful. The choice between Hawke and Loghain was probably the easiest major decision I've made so far, and the final decision regarding the fate of the Grey Wardens had a dulled impact because I couldn't give two shits about the Wardens and neither could my Inquisitor as far as roleplaying was concerned. But since she's essentially Fantasy Shepard, roleplaying only goes so far and I had to make a choice I didn't feel strongly about either way. I kicked them back to the Anderfels for the lulz, justifying my decision with "well, Solas and Cole persuaded her in the Fade that keeping them around wasn't the best idea."
BUT. The Fade itself, as well as the whispers of Corypheus to your party throughout, was amazing. Pity about the rest.
Here Lies the Abyss I don't know, it felt pretty believable to me. Wardens Keep hammers home that NOTHING is beyond the Warden's Remit. I think an actual line from the Warden in that level is 'Blood Magic is the least of what the Wardens will do to win' or something along those lines. I mean, they summoned an arm of demons then, so why not now?
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Jan 2 2015, 03:57 PM
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Re: Here Lies the Abyss I could have sworn the Nightmare at one point says something akin to "I am the veiled hand of Corypheus," which led me to believe that they were one and the same. Their voices were similar, as well.
About the Conclave: I suppose discovering the mundane truth would have been underwhelming anyway, yeah. I suppose this is just a matter of me preferring how I imagined it all happening. The cinematic aspect of it was what was disappointing to me, not necessarily the truth of it. The way the Inquisitor actually acquires the Anchor, and Corphyeus being all "oh shit" and running toward her, was so silly. Not to mention that I hadn't expected the Inquisitor to just barge right into that room and be all "WHAT'S GOING ON HERE." You're a spy! Show some subtlety!
And either way, my Inquisitor has always believed that divine intervention played no part in her survival at the Conclave, and to that end she's been trying to convince everyone that she's not the chosen one and that it's all a coincidence. So for me (and her) it wasn't such a surprise to learn that it was Justina who led her out of the Fade. That part I was happy with, and in retrospect I'm pleased BioWare veered away from the "chosen one" route that I'd feared they were pursuing.
Agreed about Clarel. Too badass for this world. RIP.
And yeah, that was my justification for having Loghain stay behind in the Fade, although my reasoning was a little less about how Merrill would feel and more about "no no my Hawke is too precious and Loghain's heroic death is overdue."
And about the Grey Warden choice...I don't know. I'm not really pissed off about having to have made that choice, but it's one of those things where I was trying to keep my character true to how I've played her thus far while keeping in mind what other party members have said regarding the Wardens. My Inquisitor accepted the mages into the Inquisition without hesitation or conditions, because
1.) she's a mage herself and sympathizes with their plight 2.) she believes everyone deserves a chance at freedom, to paraphrase Blackwall 3.) the tends to make decisions based on emotions in high-stakes situations, if she can't defer to the input of other characters (i.e. having Blackwall speak to the Wardens on her behalf)
(And regarding that third point, I loved how I was able to have her actually apologize to Cassandra for making such a rash decision.)
So it's like, why wouldn't she have accepted the Wardens, too? She accepted the aid of one group that was vulnerable to demonic possession, so why would she refuse another on the off chance they might be possessed by Corypheus? I rationalized it as her deferring to what Hawke, Solas and Cole said in the Fade - about how the Wardens had gone too far and that they should be left to fade into obscurity rather than risk inflicting more damage - and the fact that she knows little about the Grey Wardens themselves aside from their general history. She didn't want to deal with the potential headache of having them around. And yet I didn't expect her to be all "YOU ARE HENCEFORTH BANISHED TO THE ANDERFELS" about it. I would have preferred a "You're too much of a risk because of the whole Corypheus thing, sorry, quietly show yourselves out."
But making the other choice...ughghagh. Yeah, it would be in-character to blindly trust a group that made a huge mistake in the recent past, actually... But then she would get huge disapproval from everyone she's explicitly agreed with thus far about the Wardens... So then the game would be all "make up your goddamn mind."
Erghhhh I may have to replay this whole mission. You can see why I'm not a fan. Maybe if I weren't trying to be so nuanced with characterizing my Inquisitor I wouldn't have such a problem with it.
tl;dr: My Inquisitor developed strong feelings regarding the Wardens behind my back. </3
Re: Seccy And yeah, Seccy, I'm aware of the "no cost is too high" methodology, but I was just confused as to why things escalated so quickly to Battle of Denerim levels.
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Jan 2 2015, 09:06 PM
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Here Lies the Abyss That's really interesting that you felt Solas and Cole swayed you. I can see why, given who that is. 8D But my party was Cassandra, Dorian, and Varric, and the general sentiment going through was "wow this is such a [radio edit]up." Hawke and Loghain's shittalking each other was about the only indication, and then my Inquisitor just stepped in with "Maker, shut up!" - Quote:
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(And regarding that third point, I loved how I was able to have her actually apologize to Cassandra for making such a rash decision.)
Hah! I actually took the humorous path on that option, a kind of "Don't look at me, I did the best I could" and that stopped Cassandra up short, and she was like "I do sound like I'm blaming you, don't I? Sorry." I love how much freedom Inquisition gives you to react to things. Cassandra is definitely one of my Inquisitor's best friends, along with Varric and Dorian. I'll always choose the flirt option with Cassandra, because she deserves it <3 and it usually makes her laugh. In unrelated news, asked Sera "What do you think of Cullen?" and she was like "Oh, you're Cullie? Cullen-wullen?" and I actually lol'd.
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Jan 3 2015, 04:03 AM
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Just a note, Seckendorf, but kindly keep your spoiler comments in spoilers, even when replying to people. Especially when doing so. >_> I linked this topic to Chrissy, who isn't as far as Asphodel and I am (he just finished In Your Heart Still Burns).
It takes like two seconds to go <wherever the point is> [ /spoiler], so please do so!
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Jan 3 2015, 05:44 AM
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Here Lies the Abyss I really wanted to bring Cassandra and Varric on that quest, if only to see potential interactions with Hawke, but Solas was so "HOLY SHIT WE HAVE TO STOP THE WARDENS" at Skyhold that I had to take him, and Cole, if I recall correctly, had gone to Adamant during the events of Asunder (which I'm in the process of reading now, and which apparently sheds light on the Orlesian civil war and the aforementioned Gaspard character), so I thought he would provide some good input. Bring them with you on a future playthrough; they have an extended scene when you enter the Raw Fade that I very much enjoyed. Not to mention Solas puts the entire experience into perspective. He should be essential for that quest.
Finally, I brought Blackwall because Wardens, which wound up being an excellent decision. His heartbroken puppy-dog look when my Inquisitor banished the Wardens was too much. And that quiet "No..." was the icing on the sad cake. My Inquisitor was all "No, no, Blackwall, you can stay!" afterward. =(
He's like a sad dad, and sad dads are my emotional weakness. I cry every time.
And oh god, yeah, this particular Inquisitor crushes hard on Cassandra. That Swords & Shields quest was simply adorable. I'm not so sure I want that rejection scene to happen now, because as good as the Solas scenes have been, I would take this Cassandra half-mance in lieu of a full romance arc.
Having spent most of the day thinking about it, I now consider myself cool with Here Lies the Abyss, cinematic annoyances aside. Had a eureka moment while driving that put the final choice in perspective from a roleplaying standpoint that I can 100% get behind.
Also, a selection of recent screenshots that I particularly liked. Some spoilers for Here Lies the Abyss:
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