Temple of Kraden News:
| Greetings, heathen. Perhaps some fortuitous blessing of Kraden's grace hath led you to our humble Temple, or perhaps you are simply curious about this strange and wonderful cult. Should you be willing - and dare to hope - to achieve enlightenment, the door opens before you. Lo! Leave your old life behind! For once you step through, you become something more than just yourself. You become a Kradenette. Are you willing to make the rapturous plunge? Do you have what it takes? One of us! One of us! One of us! Already one of us? Make your presence known: |
| ITT: Adnarel watches Magica Madoka; and shares his amusing and insightful opinions | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 27 2013, 11:00 PM (15,507 Views) | |
| UltaFlame | Oct 31 2013, 03:09 PM Post #121 |
Thanks Poui.
|
Let's face it, Adnarel's so deep in the anime-hate that nothing will ever change it. This whole thing's an exercise in how vitriolic his criticism will be. The end result is foregone; he's going to hate it. We're just going to be amused in the meantime. Which is honestly kind of ridiculous. Adnarel, you're an alright guy and I like ya, but the degree to which you despise anime - based on nothing more than the generic artistic style, is beyond reason. |
 |
 
|
| Necare | Oct 31 2013, 03:12 PM Post #122 |
Fallen Angel
|
Oh, so it did have music? Blah. I was hoping it wouldn't, because yeah, no sound in space, seems like it would really compliment the atmosphere of the story. Not that I was ever that interested in seeing it to begin with. Also cough I agree with Ulta cough. 
|
|
|
|
| Momentime | Oct 31 2013, 03:16 PM Post #123 |
uh oh
|
well let's be honest here, it's not like we expected anything else from adna :3 |
|
|
|
| Silvy | Oct 31 2013, 03:25 PM Post #124 |
idolswag4lyfe
|
I agree, he's going to hate it and it's going to be amusing. I don't get the hate-on Adna has for anime either, if he just hated everything, I'd be like "oh, he's just one of those guys that criticizes everything" but the fact that he said it's inferior and from an inferior culture is rather strange to say the least. |
|
|
|
| Saturos | Oct 31 2013, 03:27 PM Post #125 |
heart-under-blade
|
I was similarly immersed in classic rock and hated everything else a priori in high school and Adnarel forced me to actually listen to stuff critically/actually listen to things. Knowing Adnarel, he'll at least give it an honest chance. Adnarel might also really like Baccano!, actually. for future reference, Adnarel, immortal mafia in the 1920s with train heists and shenanigans. Here's the opening. You can watch that in English dub if you like, 'cause dose 20s accents |
|
|
|
| simplechild | Oct 31 2013, 03:31 PM Post #126 |
My only feel is murder
  ![]](http://z1.ifrm.com/static/1/pip_r.png)
|
must you guys take every single thing he says at face value even if he may be completely serious |
|
|
|
| UltaFlame | Oct 31 2013, 03:58 PM Post #127 |
|
Thanks Poui.
|
Well if he would rather people not think that, he should maybe, i dunno, act in a way as to make people think that. Sure, there's benefit of the doubt and then there's years of seeing someone openly bash somehting he hasn't seen to give an honest try. Even here it's not really like "I'm watching to see if I like it" it's "I'm watching it to serve as much vitriol as I can about it and you all should be happy because I'm suffering through this for your amusement" which is an entirely different thing. Granted, knowing the guy personally, you may be aware that's not what it actually is. There ever and always remains the difference between what actually is and what is shown to be. And even if you knew him or spoke to him, people change and it's a common idiom that people become the mask. Sure, maybe before when I spoke to Adna on a regular basis he bashed anime as a joke and didn't really honestly think too negatively of it, beyond just not wanting to watch any, but since then? Who knows? I don't. He continues to put up the front of hating anime, providing very little actual reasoning behind it, aside from showing uncommon examples of frames from the worst of the medium and saying "this is what I see when I see any anime" or just blanket statements with no backup such as "Anime has no artistic merit." And honestly, his opinion isn't so much the point. Plenty of people don't like anime. Plenty of people refuse to watch it. Most of those people respect the fact that others and recognise that their opinion does not, in fact, make the law of the norm. They keep quiet about it and avoid where anime-likers talk about it. Adnarel flaunts his hatred. And in an otherwise polite discussion about it, he casually and dismissively states that "Normal" people hate it. Claims it has no artistic merit. Just an expression of his opinion? Just an exaggeration of his views? Perhaps, on both accounts. But to those who don't know him, it comes across as condescending and arrogant. It seems like Adnarel looks down upon anyone who enjoys anime... because they like anime. And if he doesn't? then it would sure help if he actually said so every once in a while. Meh. |
|
|
|
| Adnarel | Oct 31 2013, 04:05 PM Post #128 |
I'd rather be outside.
|
Simple, this is one of the myriad reasons I love you. Also, I have a hate-on for animééé because it's shitty and bad and bad and shitty. Satty probably overhyped it for me. He's such a good writer and judge of storytelling in any medium that when he went off about this to me, I expected nonstop quality. Even the most degenerate of you "shitbabies," as Lemu delightfully puts it, must admit that Madoka is not nonstop quality. But Satty is right again - I will watch this to the end and give it a fair shot. Right now, it's just blowing that shot. ^___^ |
|
|
|
| Peytral | Oct 31 2013, 04:10 PM Post #129 |
peytral pls
|
Of course it isn't nonstop quality. Almost nothing is. Except Legend of the Galactic Heroes, that is. |
|
|
| Adnarel | Oct 31 2013, 04:12 PM Post #130 |
|
I'd rather be outside.
|
There are a few things I'd call nonstop quality, but a very precious few. I can think of two books and the music of a ballet that I'd call consistent, strong quality from beginning to end. EDIT: I'd like to add the vidja Portal to that list. |
|
|
|
| Peytral | Oct 31 2013, 04:18 PM Post #131 |
|
peytral pls
|
Hence "almost nothing." |
|
|
|
| Silvy | Oct 31 2013, 04:29 PM Post #132 |
|
idolswag4lyfe
|
Nope, pretty sure nothing is non-stop quality. |
|
|
|
| Peytral | Oct 31 2013, 04:33 PM Post #133 |
|
peytral pls
|
Also Falcom music. |
|
|
|
| Adnarel | Oct 31 2013, 04:33 PM Post #134 |
|
I'd rather be outside.
|
But what about Rise of Mars? |
|
|
|
| Dracobolt | Oct 31 2013, 04:45 PM Post #135 |
Incorrigible
|
It's non-stop something, all right, but I don't think quality is the word you're looking for. Hilarity, maybe, or enthusiasm. 
|
|
|
|
| Silvy | Oct 31 2013, 04:45 PM Post #136 |
|
idolswag4lyfe
|
Nope, that would imply that every Ys ost is equally perfect and it's a well-known fact that Chronicles ost > Seven ost. |
|
|
|
| Peytral | Oct 31 2013, 04:50 PM Post #137 |
|
peytral pls
|
I mean among the individual soundtracks. |
|
|
|
| Saturos | Oct 31 2013, 04:51 PM Post #138 |
|
heart-under-blade
|
See, and Portal bored me in the first 15 minutes or so. So even quality is subjective. And yeah, the hyping is a catch-22. For me, if I don't hype it, I doubt you would give it a chance, Adna. On the flip side, after I did, your expectations are correspondingly high. Whereas when I watched it, it was "hey, it's by a writer whose other stuff I liked and that I've heard people like." However, I'll still be interested in an academic discussion of it after, so pay attention~ Rise of Mars is nonstop QUALITY. |
|
|
|
| Silvy | Oct 31 2013, 05:33 PM Post #139 |
|
idolswag4lyfe
|
I can agree that dreaming is pure perfection in audio format. I haven't played the first Portal but Portal 2 wasn't really my thing either. I appreciate that it's something different compared to all the other generic FPS's out there but the puzzles got boring relatively quick for me as there is little else to spice up the gameplay. It's like playing Golden Sun if all there was to the game was puzzles. |
|
|
|
| leaf | Oct 31 2013, 07:39 PM Post #140 |
Crimson Leaf Vermillion
|
I still don't get why we're showing him madoka. Like, it's good and all once the plot gets going, but it's hardly a masterpiece. And if it was, it would only be because it subverts a lot of stuff typically associated with the magical girl genre, which is only really applicable for people already familiar with the magical girl genre. GitS, Monster, Death Note, and Canaan are all anime I would show to someone before showing them Madoka, if they weren't originally a fan of anime and the tropes usually seen within. Each of them stray far away from the moe blob phenomenon and tell more serious stories. Maybe Steins;Gate, but I haven't actually seen the anime to compare with the VN. I would add the Kara no Kyoukai movies to that list, but due to being released anachronistically, they could be a bit jarring to get into (even I think the first movie falls a bit flat, and I love the series to pieces). Canaan might actually be my #1 recommendation for getting into anime with. And if you do like anime and haven't seen it yet, what the hell is wrong with you go watch it. |
|
|
|
 |
|
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · Temple of Illustrated Arts · Next Topic » |
11:38 AM Jul 13
