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ITT: Adnarel watches Magica Madoka; and shares his amusing and insightful opinions
Topic Started: Oct 27 2013, 11:00 PM (15,490 Views)
Necare
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Make sure it's something the Staff has to spend at least a full day dealing with, we're getting bored.


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Skylin
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That explanation was helpful but I still find the follow statement off-putting, even if you did want to strip weird of negative connotations.

"I stand by my statement that liking animu as a western-bred individual is weird."

I just think that is... off.
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Chrono Ivan
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Well skylin, given your background I can understand why you'd object to the moniker 'weird'. I myself was bullied with it as a child.

But! There is no more shame in linking foreign media than in liking foreign cuisine. The interest in nordic metal, in french cinema, in brazilian Luchadores... or conversely, British and european Templer's interest in american movies or TV shows would all fall under 'weird' as umadnarel sees it.

It's the peter pan 'grass is always greener' types that get on his nerves.
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Adnarel
Jan 9 2014, 03:02 AM
Finally, I think all should be able to agree that I've been a good sport in giving the genre a fair shot.
I was overall okay right up until you used the word "genre" instead of "medium." But perhaps you sometimes talk about the genres of books or television too.

Alternatively, you are a terrible person for conflating distinct terms. Objectively.

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Skylin
Jan 8 2014, 11:58 PM
Do you stereotype anime fans as socially awkward, perverted, weirdos?
Stereotypes are usually far from the truth, skylin

this one is not
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Skylin
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Right.

Because I'm sooooo perverted, and unless you count people bullying me through many years of my life as "socially awkward" I can make friends quite easily if I actually try.

Also, everyone is weird in their own way but it's often used for anime fans as a derogatory term. I know Adnarel didn't mean it that way apparently, but it's still something that strikes me as of. For reasons Chrono laid out quite well.
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Shadow, seriously? >_> wow
much hasty generalization
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Yeah, as Chrono said, world literature is absolutely a thing. Just as it's not weird that other cultures take an interest in our art. For whatever differences we have culturally, there's much more similarity in our common humanity. I might just be predisposed to think this way after studying world literature/myth/archetypes, but a lot evidence seems to point in that direction.

In fact, recognizing where there are similarities and differences, and applying that culturally to "how does this reflect this culture in a unique way, how is it responding to this influence from another culture" is one of my academic interests in world lit/anime, especially since Japan was so forcibly reworked into a heavily American-influenced nation. So assertions of Japanese identity (Touhou, studio ghibli (I've only seen Mononoke, but I assume that the general approach of the studio would be similar?)), or subversions/inspirations from western cultural icons (Fateverse, Madoka Magica) is always fascinating for me.

There's absolutely the "guilty pleasure" side of it, but if anyone tells me that academic work shouldn't be pleasurable, I'll tell them that they are the postmodern elitist cancer that is killing the field. :awe:

EDIT: I don't know how many times I've seen people struggle through "artistic" and "experimental" and "ground-breaking" crap that is painful to read and poorly-written, for the sake of academics. meanwhile, no one -outside- of academics cares in the slightest.
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Peytral
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peytral pls

some people just like their cartoons like they like their mutants

big-eyed and radioactive

and if that's wrong then I don't want to be right
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

Lachesis
Jan 9 2014, 12:06 PM
Adnarel
Jan 9 2014, 03:02 AM
Finally, I think all should be able to agree that I've been a good sport in giving the genre a fair shot.
I was overall okay right up until you used the word "genre" instead of "medium." But perhaps you sometimes talk about the genres of books or television too.

Alternatively, you are a terrible person for conflating distinct terms. Objectively.

I'll take full responsibility for that conflation. Medium is what I actually meant in the first place.

Also, Chrono's post talks about liking foreign things in a neat way. It is weird that have an inordinate interest in British literature. That is a deviation from the norm; I am weird. If you think "weird" is a bad word, Skylin, that's your problem and not mine. I can't make you more comfortable in your own skin. But accepting one's own "weirdness" is helpful in everything from self-image to (as I've recently found out) RoMaNtIc relationships.
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

Peytral
Jan 9 2014, 01:13 PM
some people just like their cartoons like they like their mutants

big-eyed and radioactive

and if that's wrong then I don't want to be right
See, Sky, this is what a healthy mindset looks like. Just accept your esotericism, celebrate it, and live life happy about it.

God, I can't believe I'm holding Peytral up as a positive examplar.
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Peytral
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Neither can I, really.

In fact, I feel even weirder now than I did two minutes ago.
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

But that's not a bad thing! \o/
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Don't let it get to your head now, pey
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Saturos
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Actually Adnarel, it does help to know whether you consider weirdness a good thing or bad thing, because you're the one using the word. If you think it's a bad thing, your intention is insulting; if you think it's a good thing, it's affirmation/solidarity (this thing is weird, I am weird, let us embrace weirdness, etc). xP
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Adnarel
Jan 9 2014, 01:15 PM
But accepting one's own "weirdness" is helpful in everything from self-image to (as I've recently found out) RoMaNtIc relationships.
:eyebrow:
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

It's the latter. As I've explained.

and yes, so much :eyebrow:
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Skylin
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No, I know I'm weird, Adnarel. I accept that. I'm transgender. That probably makes me weirder than most of you here.

I just think saying you have an interest in something makes you weird is just an off statement.
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