ITT: Adnarel watches Magica Madoka

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ITT: Adnarel watches Magica Madoka; and shares his amusing and insightful opinions
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simplechild	Nov 7 2013, 02:21 PM Post #361
My only feel is murder Posts: 12,119 Group: Fori Member #115 Joined: October 30, 2006 Gender: Burning Blog: What's All This, Then? Country: 'Nam. True Name: simplechild	Adnarel Nov 7 2013, 01:22 PM Smarter Child Nov 7 2013, 01:04 PM If a reliable source were to suggest an anime to you again, what would be your criteria? Criteria I never again want to see a scene end with sobs and somebody's name gasped out tearfully. I never again want to see an extreme close-up of somebody's quivering eyeball. I never again want two-part speeches made with a dramatic "but" cleanly dividing the part where the speaker delivers a dramatic line and walks away. I never again want to see oversized bloomers on anybody, ever again. I never again want to see fanservice shots up 14-year-olds' school uniforms. I never again want to see dumb hair and eyes colors. I never again want to see cool, athletic, and aloof transfer students. I never again want to see a transition scene of the school bells ringing. I never again want to see rifles, assorted debris, or anything else fall out of a skirt. So basically anime that aren't 'anime'. The Tatami Galaxy is my biggest recommendation. Think "Groundhog Day" over the span of two years in college. Also the music: [yt-sound]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkmqBSYLfbc[/yt-sound] These would also be worth checking out: Perfect Blue (Do you like mind[radio edit]s and hate idols? This is for you.) Mushishi (Think Gulliver's Travels with more emphasis on worldbuilding and atmosphere than being satirical) Aoi Bungaku (Adaptations of Japanese classical literature. Personal favorites are Run, Melos and Kokoro) These are series with a few caveats: Wandering Son (middle school drama, but is more mature about it plus that whole transgenderism thing) Kids on the Slope (high school drama, but whatever there's jazz and 60's issues and some Christian themes and shit) Nodame Cantabile (college drama, but look at all this classical music)



Peytral	Nov 7 2013, 02:23 PM Post #362
peytral pls Posts: 15,452 Group: Sol Clan Member #459 Joined: March 18, 2009 Gender: Miserable pile of secrets Blog: Ab Animo Pario Country: #0# True Name: Peytral Aznable	Spoiler: click to toggle Legend of the Galactic Heroes.



Kiki	Nov 7 2013, 03:12 PM Post #363
Kiki Martius Chantico Posts: 16,455 Group: Mars Clan (wololo!) Member #101 Joined: September 23, 2006 Blog: error# Country: #226#	I'm pleasantly surprised that you ended up okay with it, Adnarel! I figured if you didn't like it by the time Jenna with teeth was introduced and then shit went down with Sayaka, you just wouldn't.



Saturos	Nov 7 2013, 04:14 PM Post #364
heart-under-blade Posts: 36,354 Group: Iris Member #2 Joined: March 20, 2005 Gender: Male Country: #0# True Name: Saturos Theme Song: https://youtu.be/mh5vyvMGhqE	Smarter Child Nov 7 2013, 02:21 PM Adnarel Nov 7 2013, 01:22 PM Smarter Child Nov 7 2013, 01:04 PM If a reliable source were to suggest an anime to you again, what would be your criteria? Criteria I never again want to see a scene end with sobs and somebody's name gasped out tearfully. I never again want to see an extreme close-up of somebody's quivering eyeball. I never again want two-part speeches made with a dramatic "but" cleanly dividing the part where the speaker delivers a dramatic line and walks away. I never again want to see oversized bloomers on anybody, ever again. I never again want to see fanservice shots up 14-year-olds' school uniforms. I never again want to see dumb hair and eyes colors. I never again want to see cool, athletic, and aloof transfer students. I never again want to see a transition scene of the school bells ringing. I never again want to see rifles, assorted debris, or anything else fall out of a skirt. So basically anime that aren't 'anime'. The Tatami Galaxy is my biggest recommendation. Think "Groundhog Day" over the span of two years in college. Also the music: [yt-sound]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkmqBSYLfbc[/yt-sound] These would also be worth checking out: Perfect Blue (Do you like mind[radio edit]s and hate idols? This is for you.) Mushishi (Think Gulliver's Travels with more emphasis on worldbuilding and atmosphere than being satirical) Aoi Bungaku (Adaptations of Japanese classical literature. Personal favorites are Run, Melos and Kokoro) These are series with a few caveats: Wandering Son (middle school drama, but is more mature about it plus that whole transgenderism thing) Kids on the Slope (high school drama, but whatever there's jazz and 60's issues and some Christian themes and shit) Nodame Cantabile (college drama, but look at all this classical music) How many of his criteria does Fate/Zero meet?



The Phantom Squee	Nov 7 2013, 05:32 PM Post #365
Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?" Posts: 17,970 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #169 Joined: April 13, 2007 Blog: Tastes Like Homebrew Country: #0# True Name: Squee Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KvMSVnafE	Saturos Nov 7 2013, 04:14 PM How many of his criteria does Fate/Zero meet? a scene end with sobs and somebody's name gasped out tearfully (I don't remember if this actually happens but given the tone of the series it probably does) an extreme close-up of somebody's quivering eyeball I... think that's it, actually. Incidentally, Adnarel deeming it "not a waste of time" does more to convince me to watch it sometime than all the rest of the fanboying combined.



simplechild	Nov 7 2013, 05:36 PM Post #366
My only feel is murder Posts: 12,119 Group: Fori Member #115 Joined: October 30, 2006 Gender: Burning Blog: What's All This, Then? Country: 'Nam. True Name: simplechild	Saturos Nov 7 2013, 04:14 PM Smarter Child Nov 7 2013, 02:21 PM Adnarel Nov 7 2013, 01:22 PM Smarter Child Nov 7 2013, 01:04 PM If a reliable source were to suggest an anime to you again, what would be your criteria? Criteria I never again want to see a scene end with sobs and somebody's name gasped out tearfully. I never again want to see an extreme close-up of somebody's quivering eyeball. I never again want two-part speeches made with a dramatic "but" cleanly dividing the part where the speaker delivers a dramatic line and walks away. I never again want to see oversized bloomers on anybody, ever again. I never again want to see fanservice shots up 14-year-olds' school uniforms. I never again want to see dumb hair and eyes colors. I never again want to see cool, athletic, and aloof transfer students. I never again want to see a transition scene of the school bells ringing. I never again want to see rifles, assorted debris, or anything else fall out of a skirt. So basically anime that aren't 'anime'. The Tatami Galaxy is my biggest recommendation. Think "Groundhog Day" over the span of two years in college. Also the music: [yt-sound]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkmqBSYLfbc[/yt-sound] These would also be worth checking out: Perfect Blue (Do you like mind[radio edit]s and hate idols? This is for you.) Mushishi (Think Gulliver's Travels with more emphasis on worldbuilding and atmosphere than being satirical) Aoi Bungaku (Adaptations of Japanese classical literature. Personal favorites are Run, Melos and Kokoro) These are series with a few caveats: Wandering Son (middle school drama, but is more mature about it plus that whole transgenderism thing) Kids on the Slope (high school drama, but whatever there's jazz and 60's issues and some Christian themes and shit) Nodame Cantabile (college drama, but look at all this classical music) How many of his criteria does Fate/Zero meet? That depends on how much he likes to hear characters spout Japanese D&D jargon for days on end.



Gilgamesh	Nov 7 2013, 06:27 PM Post #367
solbowz Aurarius Posts: 33,599 Group: Venus Clan Member #380 Joined: October 3, 2008 Gender: King of Heroes Blog: Shattered Symbosis Country: #226# True Name: Space Boyd Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h6lFNXzC1g	Adnarel Nov 7 2013, 11:59 AM I'm really curious now to learn about who was responsible for introducing all those Christian themes. Or perhaps it was just somebody familiar with such themes and he/she decided to detachedly place them in the story, appreciating them for the pure artistic and dramatic merit they hold. The writer is a bit of a western fuzzy little man-peach, he wrote fanfiction for the science-fiction movie Equilibrium once, and that's where Mami's gun kata-esque fighting style came from. ...Probably why he also did Fate/Zero, in which some of the major characters are western heroes (King Arthur, Alexander the Great, etc)



ShmittlesThePoe	Nov 7 2013, 06:42 PM Post #368
Pirate Wavemaster Posts: 10,690 Group: Clanless Member #375 Joined: September 18, 2008 Gender: XY Country: #226#	Didn't expect this. Glad you found it adequate, adna.



The Phantom Squee	Nov 7 2013, 06:46 PM Post #369
Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?" Posts: 17,970 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #169 Joined: April 13, 2007 Blog: Tastes Like Homebrew Country: #0# True Name: Squee Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KvMSVnafE	Gilgamesh Nov 7 2013, 06:27 PM Adnarel Nov 7 2013, 11:59 AM I'm really curious now to learn about who was responsible for introducing all those Christian themes. Or perhaps it was just somebody familiar with such themes and he/she decided to detachedly place them in the story, appreciating them for the pure artistic and dramatic merit they hold. The writer is a bit of a western fuzzy little man-peach, he wrote fanfiction for the science-fiction movie Equilibrium once, and that's where Mami's gun kata-esque fighting style came from. ...Probably why he also did Fate/Zero, in which some of the major characters are western heroes (King Arthur, Alexander the Great, etc) Most, really. That tends to be a common thing in the Fate series, doesn't it? I can count on one hand the number of Servants from Eastern myths.



Gilgamesh	Nov 7 2013, 06:50 PM Post #370
solbowz Aurarius Posts: 33,599 Group: Venus Clan Member #380 Joined: October 3, 2008 Gender: King of Heroes Blog: Shattered Symbosis Country: #226# True Name: Space Boyd Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h6lFNXzC1g	The Servants, yeah (since Nasu is a self-proclaimed western myth fan; Urobuchi wanted a Chinese Servant in Fate/Zero but Nasu said "no, more western heroes"), but the setting is still Japan, and the Masters are major characters too, and most of those are Japanese, is what I meant by that.



Jackal	Nov 7 2013, 07:01 PM Post #371
Come and Take It - Temple Tsundere Posts: 8,106 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #201 Joined: June 11, 2007 Gender: Male Blog: The Pharaoh's Tomb Country: #226# True Name: Jackal	Gilgamesh Nov 7 2013, 06:27 PM he wrote fanfiction for the science-fiction movie Equilibrium once Wasn't Equilibrium a huge piece of shit?



The Phantom Squee	Nov 7 2013, 07:08 PM Post #372
Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?" Posts: 17,970 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #169 Joined: April 13, 2007 Blog: Tastes Like Homebrew Country: #0# True Name: Squee Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KvMSVnafE	Gilgamesh http://s9.zetaboards.com/The_Temple_of_Kraden/single/?p=8663266&t=7404382 The Servants, yeah (since Nasu is a self-proclaimed western myth fan; Urobuchi wanted a Chinese Servant in Fate/Zero but Nasu said "no, more western heroes"), but the setting is still Japan, and the Masters are major characters too, and most of those are Japanese, is what I meant by that. Ah, I gotcha. Jackal http://s9.zetaboards.com/The_Temple_of_Kraden/single/?p=8663270&t=7404382 Gilgamesh Nov 7 2013, 06:27 PM he wrote fanfiction for the science-fiction movie Equilibrium once Wasn't Equilibrium a huge piece of shit? I've heard its action scenes are very well done, if nothing else.



Silvy	Nov 7 2013, 07:12 PM Post #373
idolswag4lyfe Posts: 4,760 Group: Venus Clan Member #210 Joined: July 3, 2007 Gender: Hollow Country: #238# True Name: Silvy Theme Song: https://youtu.be/AIG4mhLcplo	Gilgamesh Nov 7 2013, 06:27 PM The writer is a bit of a western fuzzy little man-peach, he wrote fanfiction for the science-fiction movie Equilibrium once, and that's where Mami's gun kata-esque fighting style came from. So sugoi Urobutcher <3 It seems like the Japanese in general love the Western mythology, just look at like every RPG ever and you'll see lots of reference to Western historical and mythological figures. Glad to see that you thought Madoka was decent in the end Adna, I have to admit I felt the same way about Madoka a lot of the time. I was always waiting for the episode where she grows up and fights her own battles but then the series almost ended before that happened. I found the whole conflict between Sayaka and Kyouko kept me interested enough to keep going though. Nux Walpurgis is indeed one of the better tracks from the ost, I find her soundtrack for Kara no Kyoukai is overall better, but I'm not gonna recommend the series to you because you don't seem to like quivering eyeballs. I like Equilibrium and it does have a bit of a cult following, but the general consensus of critics is that it's a piece of shit. Critics happen to be dumb as shit 99% of the time so you're better off not listening to them anyways though.



leaf	Nov 7 2013, 07:22 PM Post #374
Crimson Leaf Vermillion Posts: 5,603 Group: Venus Clan Member #908 Joined: October 14, 2011 Gender: leaf Theme Song: http://youtu.be/wyJWmm2ymUs	Yes, that one requirement actually makes it surprisingly hard to recommend another anime for him, since a lot of stories typically have someone dying at some point or another, and I can't remember which anime use that trope and which don't. Although I must ask, is it a quivering eyeball crying that bugs adna, or do quivering eyeballs of characters about to die a gruesome horrible death count, too? Because if it's just the former, that should be easy enough to avoid.



The Phantom Squee	Nov 7 2013, 07:24 PM Post #375
Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?" Posts: 17,970 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #169 Joined: April 13, 2007 Blog: Tastes Like Homebrew Country: #0# True Name: Squee Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KvMSVnafE	Octavia von Silvandorf Nov 7 2013, 07:12 PM It seems like the Japanese in general love the Western mythology, just look at like every RPG ever and you'll see lots of reference to Western historical and mythological figures. I've seen this, yeah. Norse mythology especially seems to get referenced in tons of games. Appeal of the foreign, I suppose.



Gilgamesh	Nov 7 2013, 07:49 PM Post #376
solbowz Aurarius Posts: 33,599 Group: Venus Clan Member #380 Joined: October 3, 2008 Gender: King of Heroes Blog: Shattered Symbosis Country: #226# True Name: Space Boyd Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h6lFNXzC1g	Jackal Nov 7 2013, 07:01 PM Gilgamesh Nov 7 2013, 06:27 PM he wrote fanfiction for the science-fiction movie Equilibrium once Wasn't Equilibrium a huge piece of shit? Jackal pls you know I don't watch movies, I wouldn't know this I've probably only seen three movies in the last two years



Peytral	Nov 7 2013, 07:51 PM Post #377
peytral pls Posts: 15,452 Group: Sol Clan Member #459 Joined: March 18, 2009 Gender: Miserable pile of secrets Blog: Ab Animo Pario Country: #0# True Name: Peytral Aznable	Octavia von Silvandorf Nov 7 2013, 07:12 PM It seems like the Japanese in general love the Western mythology, just look at like every RPG ever and you'll see lots of reference to Western historical and mythological figures. ... doesn't this apply to western RPGs too?



Gilgamesh	Nov 7 2013, 07:52 PM Post #378
solbowz Aurarius Posts: 33,599 Group: Venus Clan Member #380 Joined: October 3, 2008 Gender: King of Heroes Blog: Shattered Symbosis Country: #226# True Name: Space Boyd Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h6lFNXzC1g	For western RPGs that wouldn't be using somebody else's culture.



Silvy	Nov 7 2013, 07:56 PM Post #379
idolswag4lyfe Posts: 4,760 Group: Venus Clan Member #210 Joined: July 3, 2007 Gender: Hollow Country: #238# True Name: Silvy Theme Song: https://youtu.be/AIG4mhLcplo	Gilgamesh Nov 7 2013, 07:49 PM Jackal Nov 7 2013, 07:01 PM Gilgamesh Nov 7 2013, 06:27 PM he wrote fanfiction for the science-fiction movie Equilibrium once Wasn't Equilibrium a huge piece of shit? Jackal pls you know I don't watch movies, I wouldn't know this I've probably only seen three movies in the last two years Wow, although considering very little of the movies I've seen recently would actually qualify as "good," outside of comedy stuff, you generally aren't missing out on much. Also, Kara no Kyoukai definitely has it's fair share of quivering eyes and close ups of eyes, you don't even need to watch more than the trailer to find that out. Plus it has an achronological story which is generally a love it or hate it kinda thing. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF1xBcv9_yk[/youtube]



The Sin Thesis	Nov 7 2013, 08:26 PM Post #380
Posts: 3,397 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #314 Joined: March 9, 2008 Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI	Lost mah bet. :c Good thing there weren't any takers. \o\

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