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ITT: Adnarel watches Magica Madoka; and shares his amusing and insightful opinions
Topic Started: Oct 27 2013, 11:00 PM (15,498 Views)
The Sin Thesis


Upping my bet to any (single) steam game up to $30 now.

Who will bet against me that Adna does not ragequit?

(inb4 Adna sways his opinion to spite me out of $30).
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Saturos
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heart-under-blade

confirmed for cannot into tragedy

I'll up my bet to any book up to $30. Anyone care to bet against me? Betting that Adna will ragequit, gogogo
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Silvy
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idolswag4lyfe

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Nov 4 2013, 09:54 PM
Octavia von Silvandorf
Nov 4 2013, 09:39 PM
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wtf spoilers


I love when no one notices that something is spoilers until someone points out that it's spoilers.
Pretty sure she's just trolling since nobody cares
I should've known, I honestly don't even know what she said that in response to actually.

I prefer the amount of emotion that anime has any day. A huge part of why I'll enjoy a particular series is whether or not I can sympathize with and understand the characters(with some exceptions obviously), so when they don't show emotion at all I find it hard to care about any of the characters. Not caring about characters can lead to some lulz when they get dismembered or something like in every horror movie ever though.
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

Tragedies are stupid. The only tragedy I enjoy is the story arc of Martin the Warrior over Brian Jacques' books Mossflower, Martin the Warrior, and The Legend of Luke. And it's not even a classic Greek tragedy. It's more of a drama with elements of comedy.
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Dracobolt
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Incorrigible

>bashes anime
>points to formulaic children's book series as example of better storytelling

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Gilgamesh
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solbowz Aurarius

I can't believe it took 13 pages to get to the punchline of the whole topic.
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Jenn-uh
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hunny bunchkins sugarcube lettuce chamomile sweetie pumpkin schnitzel fries

But Braco you're studying children's lit.
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Peytral
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peytral pls

Adnarel
Nov 4 2013, 10:23 PM
Tragedies are stupid.
wow

WOW
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Dracobolt
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Incorrigible

Jenna
Nov 4 2013, 10:26 PM
But Braco you're studying children's lit.
Not all children's lit is created equal.

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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

Your criticism of Jacques is entirely valid, but the reason the Martin arc is cool is because it bucks his formula utterly.
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The Sin Thesis


I loved Redwall as a kid. Read every damn book. That said:

> Cheerful woodland creatures being happy.
> Rats/stoats/something comes in to [radio edit] up their shit.
> Group of young adventurous mice go find McGuffin (probably Martin's Sword).
> Meanwhile, the elderly and children hold of the stronger, but idiotic bad guys.
> Sometimes a badger [radio edit]s some bad guys up.
> Heroes return and beat the bad guys.
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The Sin Thesis


If I remember Martin's story correctly, it follows the above formula exactly, except the first and second steps happened before the book starts, and the adventurous mouse is trying to reforge the McGuffin, instead of find it.
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Peytral
Nov 4 2013, 10:26 PM
Adnarel
Nov 4 2013, 10:23 PM
Tragedies are stupid.
wow

WOW
This, sooo much this.

In a world that's festering with forced "happy" endings and other bollocks, tragedies should be welcomed just for not giving us a stereotypical, convenient, "everything is fine" ending.
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simplechild
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My only feel is murder
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Adnarel
Nov 4 2013, 09:11 PM
Episodes 8-9

The Universe is powered by PMS.

This has come very close to completely deflating my interest in the show.
Now to see if you still care about that by the end of the anime.
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

But everything is fine! Tragedies are an incomplete picture of the world just as much as mindless happy endings are! Let's have some balance, huh? Go read Many Waters by Madeline L'Engle.

Reil, lemme take your outline there. Departures bolded.

> Cheerful woodland creatures being happy. (Luke's Tribe in the Cliffs)
> Rats/stoats/something comes in to [radio edit] up their shit. (Vilu Daskar)
> Group of young adventurous mice go find McGuffin (probably Martin's Sword). (Luke rescue Sayna)
> Meanwhile, the elderly and children hold of the stronger, but idiotic bad guys. (no, Luke is kill by demons and tribe back home is scattered)
> Sometimes a badger [radio edit]s some bad guys up. (no)
> Heroes return and beat the bad guys. (Martin is orphan, goes to fight other fights, lives a sad, sweet existence until death)
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Dracobolt
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Incorrigible

If you managed to finish Madoka Magica, I'll be interested in hearing your thoughts about it and tragedies and balance between happy and sad and all that jazz. After all, you are judging the series without complete knowledge of how it runs. But then, most of the ranting you're doing is for effect, anyway, so I ain't even mad. =P

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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

You stupid [radio edit]ers fail to take into account that I'm a man of my word. If I say I'm going to do something, I do it. I will finish this wretched series.
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Dracobolt
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I dunno, I think you will give into the suffering of watching this show and become a witch instead. Or a wizard? What do magical boys become?

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simplechild
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My only feel is murder
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"That's not a magical boy.

That's gay."
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The Sin Thesis


That's hardly a formula bucking.

Step 5 is qualified with 'sometimes.' Characters often die in the process of step 4. The last thing you put there isn't a departure from my last step. It's just another step that happens after it.

Total tally: One extra step, an optional step skipped. One step had additional collateral damage, which makes it the only 'departure.'
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