ITT: Adnarel watches Magica Madoka

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ITT: Adnarel watches Magica Madoka; and shares his amusing and insightful opinions
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The Phantom Squee	Nov 3 2013, 10:23 PM Post #201
Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?" Posts: 17,970 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #169 Joined: April 13, 2007 Blog: Tastes Like Homebrew Country: #0# True Name: Squee Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KvMSVnafE	No, but considering the argument being made is "that's the average 14-year-old girl's reaction to trauma," I think it's fairly reasonable to expect more than one of the characters to have that reaction.



Saturos	Nov 3 2013, 10:24 PM Post #202
heart-under-blade Posts: 36,354 Group: Iris Member #2 Joined: March 20, 2005 Gender: Male Country: #0# True Name: Saturos Theme Song: https://youtu.be/mh5vyvMGhqE	Well... We'll bring this up later.



Dracobolt	Nov 3 2013, 10:27 PM Post #203
Incorrigible Posts: 72,032 Group: Kid Squid Member #25 Joined: September 11, 2005 Gender: Female Blog: Creative Contemplation and Random Rumination Country: #226# True Name: Braco the Magnificent Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhvS8oGXQU	The Phantom Squee Nov 3 2013, 10:17 PM Anyway, I do want to comment on this since Adna didn't: Quote: Honestly, her reactions to everything shouldn't be surprising considering she's a 14 year old girl, clearly you don't know what it's like to be a 14 year old girl and go through suffering. I can understand where this line of reasoning comes from. Aren't the rest of the main characters also 14-year-old girls though? You're right that it's a totally reasonable response, but given that nobody else seems to react that way, doesn't that seem rather inconsistent? No, really, spoilers, don't read this if you haven't finished the series I mean it Come on, I'm spoiling the entire show here, don't frakking click, dude. Well, they all end up cracking under the pressure, don't they? Madoka's just a bit more sensitive and shows it sooner. Homura totally emotionally disconnects, and even in the first place is probably just as emotional as Madoka. Mami puts up a really strong front because her magical girl stuff is all she has to live for, but The Different Story manga shows that she suffers a lot too and definitely can give in to weakness. Heck, even some of the flashbacks show just how unstable she can get. Sayaka - um, well, it's pretty clear what happens with her. And Kyouko is kind of like Mami and Homura, forcing away her emotions so she doesn't succumb to despair. And Madoka has a really great, sheltered life - she hasn't had to see her family begin to starve or her childhood friend/crush suffer a tragic accident or lose her family or deal with a debilitating illness/condition. She has a loving family, a good school life, etc, nothing to prepare her for coping with the stuff she sees once she meets Kyubey. Haha, I guess I'm ending up a Madoka champion, but, um, I guess I can really identify with her, having been a sheltered schoolgirl that age and stuff. Her reactions really, really ring true to me, even if I did kind of sympathize with this while watching for the first time.



Silvy	Nov 3 2013, 10:29 PM Post #204
idolswag4lyfe Posts: 4,760 Group: Venus Clan Member #210 Joined: July 3, 2007 Gender: Hollow Country: #238# True Name: Silvy Theme Song: https://youtu.be/AIG4mhLcplo	Smarter Child Nov 3 2013, 10:12 PM Octavia von Silvandorf Nov 3 2013, 10:01 PM Adnarel Nov 3 2013, 09:32 PM Madoka music is fomulaic and relies more on the sounds of the instruments themselves to carry the atmosphere rather than letting the music speak for itself. Wait, this is a bad thing? What's wrong with using certain instruments to help carry an atmosphere? I don't think that's his problem. Rather, according to him, the utilization of those instruments isn't creative enough to satisfy his ear. 2elitist4me because I'm a dummy and don't know how to spoil herp derp let's keep it under wraps @Squee, well they're obviously going to act different to an extent as they are different characters, in Sayaka's case she is bottling up her emotions and trying to put on a masquerade, being an "ally of justice." Kyouko, Homura and Mami have already become accustomed to being a magical girl and dealing with life and death situations. It's more a case of her being a sheltered first-world 14 year old girl, if she lived in a lifestyle where death was a more common occurrence then her reactions would be a lot different.



HyrulianJedi	Nov 3 2013, 10:29 PM Post #205
uguu~ Posts: 7,500 Group: Clanless Member #116 Joined: November 2, 2006 Gender: Girl Blog: I Hate Blogs Country: #0#	The Phantom Squee Nov 3 2013, 10:17 PM I can understand where this line of reasoning comes from. Aren't the rest of the main characters also 14-year-old girls though? You're right that it's a totally reasonable response, but given that nobody else seems to react that way, doesn't that seem rather inconsistent? Not really. One of the things the series explores is how different people react to shitty situations, and the different ramifications, both long-term and short-term, that those reactions carry. Sayaka is a much more aggressive and dominant character, so her acceptance of Mami's death and determination through her contract are understandable. Madoka is passive and self-conscious - her reaction is exactly what I'd expect from someone without the self-confidence and sense of duty Sayaka has. Kyouko and Homura's developments are also different, but realistically fitting their backgrounds. The problem isn't that her reactions are unsurprising, it's just that they aren't interesting to see for more than a single episode. EDIT: goddammit [radio edit] all you [radio edit]ing ninjas I quit



Momentime	Nov 3 2013, 10:32 PM Post #206
uh oh Posts: 18,956 Group: Luna Clan Member #194 Joined: May 28, 2007 Gender: pew pew pew Country: #226# True Name: Shads	Saturos Nov 3 2013, 10:24 PM Well... We'll bring this up later. this CLEARLY means madoka is a terrible character and thus the show is terrible because its an animu Kappa



The Phantom Squee	Nov 3 2013, 10:34 PM Post #207
Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?" Posts: 17,970 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #169 Joined: April 13, 2007 Blog: Tastes Like Homebrew Country: #0# True Name: Squee Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KvMSVnafE	Dracobolt Nov 3 2013, 10:27 PM The Phantom Squee Nov 3 2013, 10:17 PM Anyway, I do want to comment on this since Adna didn't: Quote: Honestly, her reactions to everything shouldn't be surprising considering she's a 14 year old girl, clearly you don't know what it's like to be a 14 year old girl and go through suffering. I can understand where this line of reasoning comes from. Aren't the rest of the main characters also 14-year-old girls though? You're right that it's a totally reasonable response, but given that nobody else seems to react that way, doesn't that seem rather inconsistent? No, really, spoilers, don't read this if you haven't finished the series I mean it Come on, I'm spoiling the entire show here, don't frakking click, dude. Well, they all end up cracking under the pressure, don't they? Madoka's just a bit more sensitive and shows it sooner. Homura totally emotionally disconnects, and even in the first place is probably just as emotional as Madoka. Mami puts up a really strong front because her magical girl stuff is all she has to live for, but The Different Story manga shows that she suffers a lot too and definitely can give in to weakness. Heck, even some of the flashbacks show just how unstable she can get. Sayaka - um, well, it's pretty clear what happens with her. And Kyouko is kind of like Mami and Homura, forcing away her emotions so she doesn't succumb to despair. And Madoka has a really great, sheltered life - she hasn't had to see her family begin to starve or her childhood friend/crush suffer a tragic accident or lose her family or deal with a debilitating illness/condition. She has a loving family, a good school life, etc, nothing to prepare her for coping with the stuff she sees once she meets Kyubey. Haha, I guess I'm ending up a Madoka champion, but, um, I guess I can really identify with her, having been a sheltered schoolgirl that age and stuff. Her reactions really, really ring true to me, even if I did kind of sympathize with this while watching for the first time. Ah, okay. I knew what Homura's deal was already, but for the others, that makes sense I suppose. @ the other explanations: get gud.



Adnarel	Nov 3 2013, 10:37 PM Post #208
I'd rather be outside. Posts: 27,340 Group: Crystallux Member #71 Joined: July 2, 2006 Gender: #118# Blog: #118# Country: #118# True Name: #118# Theme Song: #118#	You guys are taking literal age seriously in an anime? I thought this was the genre that threw age and maturity out the [radio edit]ing window and gave us 600-year-old lolis, and yet children who go off on their own and battle animals against other animals. So forgive me if I hold Madoka to a higher standard than that of a literal 14-year-old. Even brushing aside for a moment the observation that other characters in the animu her same age or only slightly older are being grown-ups while she is not.



Silvy	Nov 3 2013, 10:38 PM Post #209
idolswag4lyfe Posts: 4,760 Group: Venus Clan Member #210 Joined: July 3, 2007 Gender: Hollow Country: #238# True Name: Silvy Theme Song: https://youtu.be/AIG4mhLcplo	Dammit, I specifically make sure not to mention spoilers and get spoiler-tagged, meanwhile being ninja'd by Draco with a much more detailed explanation.



Lachesis	Nov 3 2013, 10:38 PM Post #210
What are birds? Posts: 12,845 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #214 Joined: July 5, 2007 Gender: [NO_GENDER] Blog: The Chamber of Extinction Country: #0# Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq3abPnEEGE	While I do not mean to question your completely understandable, if varied, opinions on the main character, I feel compelled to leave this here for you all. That said, I am glad the show has provided something of interest, even if you are finding more than a few things to complain about. I anticipate your reactions to the next five episodes with cheer. Certain ones in there more than others. I think I have many more thoughts I would like to express, like several others, but you're in that wonderful sweet spot where most of them are lurking in the murky depths of spoilers. Misery!



HyrulianJedi	Nov 3 2013, 10:41 PM Post #211
uguu~ Posts: 7,500 Group: Clanless Member #116 Joined: November 2, 2006 Gender: Girl Blog: I Hate Blogs Country: #0#	Adnarel Nov 3 2013, 10:37 PM You guys are taking literal age seriously in an anime? I thought this was the genre that threw age and maturity out the [radio edit]ing window and gave us 600-year-old lolis, and yet children who go off on their own and battle animals against other animals. What, the fantasy genre?



Momentime	Nov 3 2013, 10:44 PM Post #212
uh oh Posts: 18,956 Group: Luna Clan Member #194 Joined: May 28, 2007 Gender: pew pew pew Country: #226# True Name: Shads	Adnarel Nov 3 2013, 10:37 PM You guys are taking literal age seriously in an anime? I thought this was the genre that threw age and maturity out the [radio edit]ing window and gave us 600-year-old lolis, and yet children who go off on their own and battle animals against other animals. So forgive me if I hold Madoka to a higher standard than that of a literal 14-year-old. Even brushing aside for a moment the observation that other characters in the animu her same age or only slightly older are being grown-ups while she is not. we've been saying THE ENTIRE THREAD that madoka and co. are schoolgirls and their varied response is due to their differing personalities. Like damn man there's jokes rocketing over your head and then there's this



The Sin Thesis	Nov 3 2013, 10:48 PM Post #213
Posts: 3,397 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #314 Joined: March 9, 2008 Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI	Adnarel Nov 3 2013, 10:37 PM You guys are taking literal age seriously in an anime? I thought this was the genre that threw age and maturity out the [radio edit]ing window and gave us 600-year-old lolis, and yet children who go off on their own and battle animals against other animals. So forgive me if I hold Madoka to a higher standard than that of a literal 14-year-old. Even brushing aside for a moment the observation that other characters in the animu her same age or only slightly older are being grown-ups while she is not. So... Madoka not quite lining up with the image of anime you hold in contempt upsets you? And no, they aren't. They're being themselves. When one of my friends was murdered, some of us cried, some of us stuffed it down, some of us went and played video games in the youth center for a while before going home and (possibly) breaking down out of sight of others. They're handling it differently, and all in ways that are realistic. None of us were 'more adult' because we didn't flip out visibly. My "these evaluations/reviews are boringly cartoonish in acting offended" rating still stands.



simplechild	Nov 3 2013, 10:53 PM Post #214
My only feel is murder Posts: 12,119 Group: Fori Member #115 Joined: October 30, 2006 Gender: Burning Blog: What's All This, Then? Country: 'Nam. True Name: simplechild	Adnarel Nov 3 2013, 10:37 PM You guys are taking literal age seriously in an anime? I thought this was the genre that threw age and maturity out the [radio edit]ing window and gave us 600-year-old lolis, and children who go off on their own and battle animals against other animals. Dead certain this is your usual hyperbole, but there do exist anime that go against that grain. Pretty sure you don't trust us to find them for you, though. And boy you people are getting so agitated over this dude not liking your Chinese Pornographic Cartoons.



Adnarel	Nov 3 2013, 10:54 PM Post #215
I'd rather be outside. Posts: 27,340 Group: Crystallux Member #71 Joined: July 2, 2006 Gender: #118# Blog: #118# Country: #118# True Name: #118# Theme Song: #118#	HyrulianJedi Nov 3 2013, 10:41 PM Adnarel Nov 3 2013, 10:37 PM You guys are taking literal age seriously in an anime? I thought this was the genre that threw age and maturity out the [radio edit]ing window and gave us 600-year-old lolis, and yet children who go off on their own and battle animals against other animals. What, the fantasy genre? Yeah. I mean, that's what magical girl is, right? EDIT: Simple is the Adna whisperer. You should heed his readings of me more often. They're almost always accurate. >_>



Gilgamesh	Nov 3 2013, 10:54 PM Post #216
solbowz Aurarius Posts: 33,599 Group: Venus Clan Member #380 Joined: October 3, 2008 Gender: King of Heroes Blog: Shattered Symbosis Country: #226# True Name: Space Boyd Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h6lFNXzC1g	since when was anime as a whole a single genre that's like saying Ponies and Transformers are in the same genre



Dracobolt	Nov 3 2013, 10:58 PM Post #217
Incorrigible Posts: 72,032 Group: Kid Squid Member #25 Joined: September 11, 2005 Gender: Female Blog: Creative Contemplation and Random Rumination Country: #226# True Name: Braco the Magnificent Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhvS8oGXQU	Gilgamesh Nov 3 2013, 10:54 PM that's like saying Ponies and Transformers are in the same genre Toy commercials?



The Sin Thesis	Nov 3 2013, 10:58 PM Post #218
Posts: 3,397 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #314 Joined: March 9, 2008 Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI	Double post for justice, because it won't be a double post by the time I finish: Madoka is the most boring character, and I've said so in the past. She's just... 'good,' and loved by all to an extent I never quite felt was fully justified. Following her in boringness are the Kyuubei, then Mami (who is slightly less boring in other materials, I am told). Sayaka and Kyoko together are interesting. Homura is what makes the series.



simplechild	Nov 3 2013, 10:58 PM Post #219
My only feel is murder Posts: 12,119 Group: Fori Member #115 Joined: October 30, 2006 Gender: Burning Blog: What's All This, Then? Country: 'Nam. True Name: simplechild	Dracobolt Nov 3 2013, 10:58 PM Gilgamesh Nov 3 2013, 10:54 PM that's like saying Ponies and Transformers are in the same genre Toy commercials? Get wrecked.



The Phantom Squee	Nov 3 2013, 10:58 PM Post #220
Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?" Posts: 17,970 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #169 Joined: April 13, 2007 Blog: Tastes Like Homebrew Country: #0# True Name: Squee Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KvMSVnafE	Adnarel http://s9.zetaboards.com/The_Temple_of_Kraden/single/?p=8662412&t=7404382 Simple is the Adna whisperer. I chuckled. Gilgamesh http://s9.zetaboards.com/The_Temple_of_Kraden/single/?p=8662413&t=7404382 since when was anime as a whole a single genre that's like saying Ponies and Transformers are in the same genre See Adnarel http://s9.zetaboards.com/The_Temple_of_Kraden/single/?p=8662412&t=7404382 HyrulianJedi Nov 3 2013, 10:41 PM Adnarel Nov 3 2013, 10:37 PM You guys are taking literal age seriously in an anime? I thought this was the genre that threw age and maturity out the [radio edit]ing window and gave us 600-year-old lolis, and yet children who go off on their own and battle animals against other animals. What, the fantasy genre? Yeah. I mean, that's what magical girl is, right?

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