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Petition to Remove This retaged Word Filter
Topic Started: Oct 16 2013, 04:39 AM (6,160 Views)
Dracobolt
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Incorrigible

Mewtwo
Oct 17 2013, 05:53 AM
Gilgamesh
Oct 17 2013, 01:06 AM
Wooooooooooooooow so basically if I find an issue I don't agree with, spam the thread so it gets moved to PG

Noted
This.
Ryu already said it was an accident and moved it back before you posted. >_____>

:mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn:
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Saturos
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heart-under-blade

Well Boyd, the filter was changed. Satisfied? =P
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Hisui
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Seccy "no fun allowed" Secundum

Dracobolt
Oct 17 2013, 08:32 AM
Mewtwo
Oct 17 2013, 05:53 AM
Gilgamesh
Oct 17 2013, 01:06 AM
Wooooooooooooooow so basically if I find an issue I don't agree with, spam the thread so it gets moved to PG

Noted
This.
Ryu already said it was an accident and moved it back before you posted. >_____>

:mars_djinn: :mars_djinn: :mars_djinn:
It was the spamming the thread thing I was agreeing with. Didn't even know it had actually gone to PG.
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Saturos
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heart-under-blade

Except don't spam this topic, please.
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Seoulbowz
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Saturos
Oct 17 2013, 09:06 AM
Well Boyd, the filter was changed. Satisfied? =P
This isn't what the petition was for at all.

Also, quoting this because I didn't see it get answered and I'm interested in the answer as well.

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Also for curiosity's sake, Jenna (or anyone else involved in the matter), what was the reasoning behind adding the word currently filtered to "retag" in the first place?
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leaf
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[radio edit] YOU SATTY

retarded -> [radio edit]ed is the most retarded thing ever

I don't know about the rest of you, but I read that as [radio edit]ed, as in fucked, because that's what it always has been on this [radio edit]ing forum.
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leaf
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Crimson Leaf Vermillion

Yeah, I'm pissed. This is far and away worse than what it was before.
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Saturos
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heart-under-blade

Wow Leaf, calm 'er down. It's not a big deal. I'll change it. =P
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Hell
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classy and intelligent individualed

individualed

lol

g'night guys
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Hinoa
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Enabling Terrible Ideas since 2012

Smugleaf
Oct 17 2013, 10:58 AM
[radio edit] YOU SATTY

retarded -> [radio edit]ed is the most retarded thing ever

I don't know about the rest of you, but I read that as [radio edit]ed, as in [radio edit]ed, because that's what it always has been on this [radio edit]ing forum.
...except way back when it also meant "bitch."

Just saying.
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Saturos
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heart-under-blade

There you go Hell, try it now
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Bane Martius Agni
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Smugleaf
Oct 17 2013, 11:01 AM
Yeah, I'm pissed. This is far and away worse than what it was before.
<3


I could have sworn bitch became bijch or something at some point. Am I wrong?
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Seoulbowz
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Bane Martius Agni
Oct 17 2013, 11:47 AM
Smugleaf
Oct 17 2013, 11:01 AM
Yeah, I'm pissed. This is far and away worse than what it was before.
<3


I could have sworn bitch became bijch or something at some point. Am I wrong?
It was [Radio Edjt] or something like that. iirc
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Saturos
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heart-under-blade

Yeah, it was indeed [radio edit].
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leaf
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Crimson Leaf Vermillion

okay, so now retarded = classy, intelligent, and sophisticated
and retard = classy and intelligent individual

This forum is objectively terrible.
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Jenn-uh
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Captain Bowzlock
Oct 17 2013, 09:55 AM
Saturos
Oct 17 2013, 09:06 AM
Well Boyd, the filter was changed. Satisfied? =P
This isn't what the petition was for at all.

Also, quoting this because I didn't see it get answered and I'm interested in the answer as well.

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Also for curiosity's sake, Jenna (or anyone else involved in the matter), what was the reasoning behind adding the word currently filtered to "retag" in the first place?
F*g had already been censored, so it followed that r****d would be as well, seeing as their both hate language/slurs against a specific group. Would you like me to explain more about why it's considered inappropriate or are you aware?
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Saturos
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heart-under-blade

*points to poll results*

Almost a 50/50 split.
I really don't see what's so terrible about being unable to call people a "retard." Could you, or Boyd, clearly articulate why this is an issue? At this point it's not "omg a minority repressing the majority," it's really a courtesy thing that appears to have considerable support.
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Seoulbowz
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Supergeil

I'm aware why it's inappropriate to use them. What I'm not understanding is why it's appropriate to censor either of them. Unlike curse words fag and retard don't have anything to do with keeping the forum PG-13, which, in my understanding is the point of censors. Maybe they were co-opted for the use of "oh these words might offend a specific group of people let's censor them" but we don't censor 'rape' which has that same effect of potentially offending certain groups of people, all we do for that word is ask that people not use it in most contexts. What makes these words any different from that word?

Edit @Satty: My issue isn't with not being able to call people retards. I don't do that. My issue is with what the censors are being used for.
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Peytral
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peytral pls

Saturos
Oct 17 2013, 12:14 PM
I really don't see what's so terrible about being unable to call people a "classy and intelligent individual."
Are you implying that you can't use the word "classy, intelligent, and sophisticated" to refer to something that isn't a person?
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Saturos
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Good question, Bowz. People do generally respect the "don't use rape lightly" rule. If you believe people would avoid using fuzzy little man-peach and classy and intelligent individual outside of respectful discussion rule, it would be nice as an honour system. However, it's more than that. "Rape" refers to an actual event that happens to be and should be discussed seriously, but not taken lightly. So it's uncensored. However, "fuzzy little man-peach" and "classy and intelligent individual" serve no purpose but to insult and demean, and whereas it's also a casual use, there is not really a legitimate purpose to use those words. People may bypass if it's a partial match, like Cofuzzy little man-peachrigus, or if they're referring to, say, "flame retardant."
Given that we had someone censor-bypass for the sake of insulting in this topic, even, I doubt a honour system would work.

And while the two words in question may not conform to a PG-13 guideline (can you think of a PG-13 movie where people are called f*g or r****d?), they're still words where the negative connotations outweigh the "positive" (a word to use in insulting your friends). I could elaborate on this point, but that's the basic outline.

Does that answer your questions, Bowz?

EDIT: Hmmmm, I think I might get where you're coming from. Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying that using censors does nothing to stop people's habit of using f*g and r****d in their normal sentences?
If so, should we remove the censors but discourage people from using those words?
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