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3deep5me: Anime Discussion Topic; Manga's okay too, we guess.
Topic Started: Aug 29 2013, 05:37 PM (8,282 Views)
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solbowz Aurarius

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Nov 23 2013, 02:10 AM
Maybe I should use this topic to sort of liveblog as I watch the show. That could be amusing, and since this is nominally the srs anime topic, I would be forced to actually give some analysis and stuff. It would become for my like what Matt's topic was for watching megucas.

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Do it

Knowing your tastes, I NEED to see what your reactions are for like

anything Berserker does
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Dracobolt
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That's okay. Now I'm intrigued. Maybe he will somehow redeem himself? I'd be okay with that, I guess. Well, it is a good thing that Aaron and I are going to watch this tomorrow (and some Tutu as well!).

Okay, then it's settled. Liveblog all up in this topic, holla.

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Saturos
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Yesssss. Liveblogging could be a great thing. I'd almost propose a separate topic for it, but I guess this topic has to be used for something. >_>
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uh oh

Why Waver of all people? I'd understand caster team or gilgamesh team but of all people you choose waver. like wtf.

Is it because he seems to weakest one in the fight or something?
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Nov 23 2013, 01:53 AM
Don't you like female protagonists that don't suck though and/or actually do things? That fits Saber pretty well.
and thus Gilgamesh finally made a post that doesn't bash Saber. I don't think she's seen much of Saber in action at this point though.

Draco pls, Waver is the best. Sorry not every guy is ripped and intelligent like you want them to be.

Seriously though, I loved Fate Zero personally and it's pretty much the anime that got me into anime so I'd definitely recommend it to someone who isn't too big on anime(depending on their taste of course). The main reason I liked it was the characters though, the way it focuses on each character and their goals made me have a hard time deciding which one I wanted to side with. Plus characters that are both "good guys" but are conflicted over the means to the end have always been interesting to me so Saber and Kiritsugu are cool in their own regard.

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If that was to me, you know, that's an interesting point. It's a funny thing, but I'm more likely to tolerate something that's more objectively bad if it still somehow amuses or holds my interest in some compelling respect. Like, I watched Occult Academy a while back, and it was definitely a mediocre show. But there were some aspects of the plot and some of the character dynamics that I enjoyed seeing unfold and/or thinking critically about, and that was enough to get me to finish the series. (Also, it was only 13 episodes.)


I can agree with this, a show can have plenty of bad qualities to it and still be "good" because of other things that it does well. Hell, I loved Symphogear but I won't deny there's quite a few things wrong with it.

EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to mention I actually didn't like Fate Zero much at first because of the overabundance of characters, especially since it throws them all at you in like, the first episode.
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Nov 23 2013, 02:05 AM
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Nov 23 2013, 02:02 AM
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Nov 23 2013, 01:56 AM
Rapunzel
Nov 23 2013, 01:54 AM
It just hasn't hooked me so far either time I've tried to watch it. So far it reminds me of Game of Thrones, only anime.

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That's LoGH. Pretty much the only thing Fate/Zero shares with GoT is a fantasy setting.
Also whenever someone dies, they do so pretty brutally. That does kinda create a similar atmosphere.
It's more the fact that all of the characters seem to be unlikable people whom I probably wouldn't care if they died, but I guess at least one or two might turn out to be sympathetic, maybe. Maybe Sabre? And I liked beefcake guy, kind of, and wimpy bug guy doesn't seem completely bad either.

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Oh so it's not plot related then. That makes sense, I don't particularly care if characters are assholes or unlikable as long as they're interesting, but I can understand how that'd be annoying. Also, like other people have said I'd argue there are certainly characters that become sympathetic and/or 'likable'. After the first two or three episodes it's certainly hard to tell who those characters are, though, especially since the first is an info dump and the cast is rather large to try and digest in one or two episodes.
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It's okay, I didn't really like Waver when I first read it, either. He's kinda a dick.
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F/Z episode one: what I can remember
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Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?"

Oh yeah, forgot about Kariya. He would be Wimpy Bug Guy.

Anyway yeah I think Waver will probably grow on you at least a little; his development arc is one of the best ones imo. Rider and Lancer best servants all day erry day.
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solbowz Aurarius

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Nov 23 2013, 03:45 PM
- It's like they went down a checkbox for brooding, aloof, misunderstood loner characters with inner turmoil when they were making Emiya What'shisface.
It's funny because Homura is based off him

Also it's heavily based on it to the point that it still has a pope, but it's not meant to be a 1:1 representation of the Catholic Church.

Also Shadow, she said she only watched two episodes, which means she didn't meet Caster Team yet and all Gilgamesh did was get summoned and kill Assassin.
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Dracobolt
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Nov 23 2013, 07:23 PM
Rapunzel
Nov 23 2013, 03:45 PM
- It's like they went down a checkbox for brooding, aloof, misunderstood loner characters with inner turmoil when they were making Emiya What'shisface.
It's funny because Homura is based off him
Haha, so I hear. Maybe he'll have backstory that will actually make me sympathize with him. And if his character doesn't work for me, it will be interesting to think about why Homura's does. But then, I'm only two episodes in, so we'll see! Appearances can be deceiving!

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heart-under-blade

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Nov 23 2013, 07:23 PM
Rapunzel
Nov 23 2013, 03:45 PM
- It's like they went down a checkbox for brooding, aloof, misunderstood loner characters with inner turmoil when they were making Emiya What'shisface.
It's funny because Homura is based off him

Also it's heavily based on it to the point that it still has a pope, but it's not meant to be a 1:1 representation of the Catholic Church.

Also Shadow, she said she only watched two episodes, which means she didn't meet Caster Team yet and all Gilgamesh did was get summoned and kill Assassin.
But Caster Team is episode 2. It's Lancer Team she hasn't met yet.

go bsck to watching fate/zero, girugamesh
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Gilgamesh
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solbowz Aurarius

Oh, they came up then? Huh

Well, point stands about Archer Team, at any rate.
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Dracobolt
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Incorrigible

Fate/Zero thoughts episodes 2-6
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My only feel is murder
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Rapunzel
Nov 25 2013, 10:41 PM
Basically LARPing for grown men?
My personal label for this show is "Japanese D&D", but that works too.
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solbowz Aurarius

What, nothing on Berserker?
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Dracobolt
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Incorrigible

Oh yeah. Berserker: "Dat CG" Also "seems cool, but nothing else right now because he hasn't done much."

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solbowz Aurarius

The CG is intentional since it's to convey one of his Noble Phantasms (the black fog); once he stops using it, he's drawn like everyone else.

Also you'll find he basically steals every scene he's in.
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wow I shouldn't have to tell you of all people to watch giving stuff away

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Dracobolt
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Aaron and I are getting me to finish the series within the week, because I'm crazy like that.

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