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3deep5me: Anime Discussion Topic; Manga's okay too, we guess.
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Raseren	Aug 29 2013, 08:57 PM Post #21
hello darkness my old friend Posts: 7,476 Group: Luna Clan Member #985 Joined: June 6, 2012 Gender: Boy Country: Japan True Name: Razzle Dazzle	Dracobolt Aug 29 2013, 08:43 PM Stealth Suit Ras Aug 29 2013, 08:39 PM I finished a few but i'll only talk about one for now : 0. Witchblade While I was really satisfied with how the anime ended it still unnerved me that I felt incomplete in the experience. It desperately needs a sequel~ Spoiler: click to toggle I haven't seen the series, but upon looking it up it looks surprisingly interesting. But now I'm kind of curious how you meant what you said. Like, the ending was good and what it should be, but you just wish there was more you could watch with those characters? Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah, the cast were all enjoyable and you just wanted to know more about them(Helps that most of them had a connection to the main plot)The various reveals sort of set up that most of the main characters could come back.



Dracobolt	Aug 29 2013, 09:06 PM Post #22
Incorrigible Posts: 72,032 Group: Kid Squid Member #25 Joined: September 11, 2005 Gender: Female Blog: Creative Contemplation and Random Rumination Country: #226# True Name: Braco the Magnificent Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhvS8oGXQU	Stealth Suit Ras Aug 29 2013, 08:57 PM Dracobolt Aug 29 2013, 08:43 PM Stealth Suit Ras Aug 29 2013, 08:39 PM I finished a few but i'll only talk about one for now : 0. Witchblade While I was really satisfied with how the anime ended it still unnerved me that I felt incomplete in the experience. It desperately needs a sequel~ Spoiler: click to toggle I haven't seen the series, but upon looking it up it looks surprisingly interesting. But now I'm kind of curious how you meant what you said. Like, the ending was good and what it should be, but you just wish there was more you could watch with those characters? Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah, the cast were all enjoyable and you just wanted to know more about them(Helps that most of them had a connection to the main plot)The various reveals sort of set up that most of the main characters could come back. Spoiler: click to toggle From the cursory look I did, the anime is based on a western comic series. Maybe you could look into that if you want to learn more about the characters. So on another note, I've been thinking recently about anime and people who don't normally watch it. I was considering what series might be good ones for people to try who aren't usually into anime. For instance, would a fan of BBC period dramas be drawn to Victorian Romance Emma? HBO fans of American period dramas like that Boardwalk Empire show, maybe they'd enjoy Baccano? It helps that both of those anime are more realistic (not much in the way of sweatdrops and chibis and whatnot) and set in western settings. So what do y'all think?



Raseren	Aug 29 2013, 09:11 PM Post #23
hello darkness my old friend Posts: 7,476 Group: Luna Clan Member #985 Joined: June 6, 2012 Gender: Boy Country: Japan True Name: Razzle Dazzle	Dracobolt Aug 29 2013, 09:06 PM Stealth Suit Ras Aug 29 2013, 08:57 PM Dracobolt Aug 29 2013, 08:43 PM Stealth Suit Ras Aug 29 2013, 08:39 PM I finished a few but i'll only talk about one for now : 0. Witchblade While I was really satisfied with how the anime ended it still unnerved me that I felt incomplete in the experience. It desperately needs a sequel~ Spoiler: click to toggle I haven't seen the series, but upon looking it up it looks surprisingly interesting. But now I'm kind of curious how you meant what you said. Like, the ending was good and what it should be, but you just wish there was more you could watch with those characters? Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah, the cast were all enjoyable and you just wanted to know more about them(Helps that most of them had a connection to the main plot)The various reveals sort of set up that most of the main characters could come back. Spoiler: click to toggle From the cursory look I did, the anime is based on a western comic series. Maybe you could look into that if you want to learn more about the characters. So on another note, I've been thinking recently about anime and people who don't normally watch it. I was considering what series might be good ones for people to try who aren't usually into anime. For instance, would a fan of BBC period dramas be drawn to Victorian Romance Emma? HBO fans of American period dramas like that Boardwalk Empire show, maybe they'd enjoy Baccano? It helps that both of those anime are more realistic (not much in the way of sweatdrops and chibis and whatnot) and set in western settings. So what do y'all think? Spoiler: click to toggle It started out as a western series and the anime/manga share almost no characters with it's roots.



The Phantom Squee	Aug 29 2013, 10:53 PM Post #24
Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?" Posts: 17,970 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #169 Joined: April 13, 2007 Blog: Tastes Like Homebrew Country: #0# True Name: Squee Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KvMSVnafE	Dracobolt Aug 29 2013, 09:06 PM So on another note, I've been thinking recently about anime and people who don't normally watch it. I was considering what series might be good ones for people to try who aren't usually into anime. For instance, would a fan of BBC period dramas be drawn to Victorian Romance Emma? HBO fans of American period dramas like that Boardwalk Empire show, maybe they'd enjoy Baccano? It helps that both of those anime are more realistic (not much in the way of sweatdrops and chibis and whatnot) and set in western settings. So what do y'all think? Well, looking at the fall selection, I could count on one hand the number of upcoming shows that didn't look like rehashed, self-referential tripe. But one that did stand out to me for some reason was one called Galilei Donna. It's certainly way outside of my usual interest--that being shallow action-y stuff--but it kind of looks like it might be interesting to me as somebody who doesn't watch much anime?



Dracobolt	Aug 29 2013, 11:00 PM Post #25
Incorrigible Posts: 72,032 Group: Kid Squid Member #25 Joined: September 11, 2005 Gender: Female Blog: Creative Contemplation and Random Rumination Country: #226# True Name: Braco the Magnificent Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhvS8oGXQU	The Phantom Squee Aug 29 2013, 10:53 PM Dracobolt Aug 29 2013, 09:06 PM So on another note, I've been thinking recently about anime and people who don't normally watch it. I was considering what series might be good ones for people to try who aren't usually into anime. For instance, would a fan of BBC period dramas be drawn to Victorian Romance Emma? HBO fans of American period dramas like that Boardwalk Empire show, maybe they'd enjoy Baccano? It helps that both of those anime are more realistic (not much in the way of sweatdrops and chibis and whatnot) and set in western settings. So what do y'all think? Well, looking at the fall selection, I could count on one hand the number of upcoming shows that didn't look like rehashed, self-referential tripe. But one that did stand out to me for some reason was one called Galilei Donna. It's certainly way outside of my usual interest--that being shallow action-y stuff--but it kind of looks like it might be interesting to me as somebody who doesn't watch much anime? "The story is about three moons in the form of three of Italian astronomer Galileo's female descendants who are on international wanted lists." What. Well, that sounds... um... interesting. But I am intrigued by the idea. At the very least it aligns with a few of my interests. I guess we will find out more about what this series will be like as it gets closer and then airs. On another note, I just finished reading The Different Story. I won't post anything spoilery but will just say that I very much enjoyed it, especially seeing the dynamics between the magical girls whom we didn't see interact as much in the anime series. It was really sweet at points, for all that it's, y'know, Madoka Magica stuff. I also now am this much closer to apping Madoka herself for the next Rumble. I find her character fascinating, and it would be fun to try to capture that in my writing attempts.



Gilgamesh	Aug 29 2013, 11:28 PM Post #26
solbowz Aurarius Posts: 33,599 Group: Venus Clan Member #380 Joined: October 3, 2008 Gender: King of Heroes Blog: Shattered Symbosis Country: #226# True Name: Space Boyd Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h6lFNXzC1g	Mami/Kyoko is best ship Also uh I guess I'd say Fate/Zero would be alright for a western hot hunk of manmeat. The main characters are all adults with several of them being parents (ie: not a high school setting with teenage heroes), it doesn't have any "anime" crap (no fanservice gags, not many overly exaggerated facial expressions, you know, basically anything you only see in anime and nowhere else), the main hero uses guns (because to 90% of western hot hunk of manmeats not using guns makes you a nerd), and the mythological/historical figures it uses are mostly well known heroes in western culture like Alexander the Great (as opposed to having a plot steeped in Japanese cultural references). But on the other hand King Arthur is a girl so you know.



Kiki	Aug 29 2013, 11:54 PM Post #27
Kiki Martius Chantico Posts: 16,455 Group: Mars Clan (wololo!) Member #101 Joined: September 23, 2006 Blog: error# Country: #226#	Dracobolt Aug 29 2013, 05:55 PM Yes, you should. =3 I've heard of Welcome to the NHK. It seems interesting from what I've read about it, but series that have too much of a focus on embarrassing awkwardness trigger my cringe factor. Still, if it's a more realistic piece, especially with a protagonist who's older than high school, I might check it out. I've been having trouble connecting with the stories in a lot of general anime about high school students as I get older. On a side note, does anyone else feel that way ever? Going back to NHK, I do have to recommend it. It's not cringeworthy in an outrageous, Michael Scott sort of way. The cringeworthiness has more of a pitiful vibe, really. Like Arty said, the characters are so human that you see their social ineptitude and you know where it comes from. You see into the character's psyche, so their craziness is decipherable. and you end up rooting for them to grow and learn. It's got a dark humor vibe though. It's good.



The Phantom Squee	Aug 29 2013, 11:57 PM Post #28
Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?" Posts: 17,970 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #169 Joined: April 13, 2007 Blog: Tastes Like Homebrew Country: #0# True Name: Squee Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KvMSVnafE	Gilgamesh Aug 29 2013, 11:28 PM it doesn't have much "anime" crap (no fanservice gags, not many overly exaggerated facial expressions, you know, basically anything you only see in anime and nowhere else), the main hero uses guns (because to 90% of western hot hunk of manmeats not using guns makes you a nerd), and the mythological/historical figures it uses are mostly well known heroes in western culture like Alexander the Great (as opposed to having a plot steeped in Japanese cultural references). But on the other hand King Arthur is a girl so you know. (In my opinion, at least.) It does have a few standard tropes of anime, especially those common to darker series: a "quirky" serial killer character who laughs a lot and somehow never gets caught, everybody is some variety of asshole, character deaths tend to be futile and ignominious, etc. Those are all things that can be gotten past fairly easily though, since they're not entirely absent from Western stuff either (see: Game of Thrones), so yeah, that one might be good if you're a fan of myths.



Peytral	Aug 30 2013, 12:06 AM Post #29
peytral pls Posts: 15,452 Group: Sol Clan Member #459 Joined: March 18, 2009 Gender: Miserable pile of secrets Blog: Ab Animo Pario Country: #0# True Name: Peytral Aznable	Legend of the Galactic Heroes.



Seoulbowz	Aug 30 2013, 12:18 AM Post #30
Supergeil Posts: 19,233 Group: Sol Clan Member #54 Joined: May 28, 2006 Blog: Edeka Country: #79# True Name: Friedrich Liechtenstein Theme Song: https://youtu.be/jxVcgDMBU94	Cowboy Bebop, it pretty much fits every one of the things Boyd listed about Fate/Zero, plus it's Sci-Fi and I feel like Sci-Fi is pretty popular in the west. LoGH also fits this bill, but it can be pretty intimidating since it's rather long.



HyrulianJedi	Aug 30 2013, 12:31 AM Post #31
uguu~ Posts: 7,500 Group: Clanless Member #116 Joined: November 2, 2006 Gender: Girl Blog: I Hate Blogs Country: #0#	Cowboy Bebop is frequently referred to as the anime for normalcools. And actually, it was a friend of mine who hates most anime that got me to watch it. He compared it to Firefly, which is pretty accurate.



Seoulbowz	Aug 30 2013, 12:46 AM Post #32
Supergeil Posts: 19,233 Group: Sol Clan Member #54 Joined: May 28, 2006 Blog: Edeka Country: #79# True Name: Friedrich Liechtenstein Theme Song: https://youtu.be/jxVcgDMBU94	Not to mention, it has a great English dub and watching something in your first language is always going to be easier and more appealing to people who don't regularly watch subtitled things.



simplechild	Aug 30 2013, 03:32 AM Post #33
My only feel is murder Posts: 12,119 Group: Fori Member #115 Joined: October 30, 2006 Gender: Burning Blog: What's All This, Then? Country: 'Nam. True Name: simplechild	Dracobolt Aug 29 2013, 09:06 PM So on another note, I've been thinking recently about anime and people who don't normally watch it. I was considering what series might be good ones for people to try who aren't usually into anime. For instance, would a fan of BBC period dramas be drawn to Victorian Romance Emma? HBO fans of American period dramas like that Boardwalk Empire show, maybe they'd enjoy Baccano? It helps that both of those anime are more realistic (not much in the way of sweatdrops and chibis and whatnot) and set in western settings. So what do y'all think? For me, it's much easier to get people into anime by relating it to Western shows/movies they might be watching instead. Gankutsuou is "The Count of Monte Christo... IN SPACE!" Darker Than Black is about a Chinese Electric Batman. Eden of the East turns into "The Bourne Identity if the lead not only lost his memories but also was naked in front of the White House". Ghost in the Shell and Psycho-Pass draw obvious similarities with Blade Runner and other cyberpunk stories. Most mecha anime now qualify as "Pacific Rim except better". And then I suggest Fullmetal Alchemist without any point of reference just because. Other times it's useful to let a newcomer know that some anime are actually tailored towards a Western audience rather than a Japanese one. Cowboy Bebop and The Big O come to me as two big examples of that. Additionally, Xam'd was released on America's PSN first before being broadcast in Japan a full year later.



Dracobolt	Aug 30 2013, 08:08 AM Post #34
Incorrigible Posts: 72,032 Group: Kid Squid Member #25 Joined: September 11, 2005 Gender: Female Blog: Creative Contemplation and Random Rumination Country: #226# True Name: Braco the Magnificent Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhvS8oGXQU	Those are good points! Yeah, I think that being able to relate series to similar Western shows would be a big plus in convincing someone to give them a try, as would dubs. I definitely didn't start out watching subtitled anime, and it was only by seeing things like Pokemon and the original Toonami runs on regular American channels at first that I got a handle on what sort of genre conventions a lot of anime had. (Also my older cousin showed me a bunch when I was visiting my grandma. In retrospect he had no idea what sort of things were appropriate for a preteen girl, bless his heart.) But I didn't know that some of those series were, as you say, more tailored for western audiences. Then again, I haven't watched most of the ones y'all have listed. ^^;



Kiki	Aug 30 2013, 08:19 AM Post #35
Kiki Martius Chantico Posts: 16,455 Group: Mars Clan (wololo!) Member #101 Joined: September 23, 2006 Blog: error# Country: #226#	Comedies have had a good effect on friends who aren't into anything japanese. Nichijou and Mitsudomoe in particular. FMA has been a stepping stone for a lot of people.



Momentime	Aug 30 2013, 08:51 AM Post #36
uh oh Posts: 18,956 Group: Luna Clan Member #194 Joined: May 28, 2007 Gender: pew pew pew Country: #226# True Name: Shads	just be sure to rec psg in english because tbh its [radio edit]ing hilarious would fit right in on adult swim/late night comedy central imo



Peytral	Aug 30 2013, 10:57 AM Post #37
peytral pls Posts: 15,452 Group: Sol Clan Member #459 Joined: March 18, 2009 Gender: Miserable pile of secrets Blog: Ab Animo Pario Country: #0# True Name: Peytral Aznable	Smarter Child Aug 30 2013, 03:32 AM Most mecha anime now qualify as "Pacific Rim except better". >most mecha anime >better >Pacific Rim not rly But basically everything else he said, yeah. There's also Tiger & Bunny.



Nell	Aug 30 2013, 09:52 PM Post #38
The Pretender Posts: 2,700 Group: Fori Member #1,042 Joined: December 5, 2012 Gender: Six up on the lot of you Country: Australia Blog: all the legends are lies Theme Song: http://goo.gl/Hl3kzF	Yeah, I'll third (?) the Bebop recommendation. I'm pretty sure it predates Firefly, but there are some similarities of genre. Plus the theme song is super catchy ... LET'S JAM. The most anime-y part of Fate/Zero for me was actually the Kiritsugu stuff - the very first Natalia flashback (which goes unexplained at the time), and then the subsequent Kiritsugu episodes. It felt like an anime trope to have him be suddenly be able to fight in the way that he does.



simplechild	Aug 30 2013, 10:17 PM Post #39
My only feel is murder Posts: 12,119 Group: Fori Member #115 Joined: October 30, 2006 Gender: Burning Blog: What's All This, Then? Country: 'Nam. True Name: simplechild	I think you shouldn't worry about anime tropes since a newcomer would have no idea what those are until they watch enough anime to know. Also, giving them a whole bunch of non-Ghibli movies to watch is also an option, because lol people having your kind of time to watch an entire series.



Silvy	Aug 30 2013, 11:24 PM Post #40
idolswag4lyfe Posts: 4,760 Group: Venus Clan Member #210 Joined: July 3, 2007 Gender: Hollow Country: #238# True Name: Silvy Theme Song: https://youtu.be/AIG4mhLcplo	Yeah, Bebop and Ghost in the Shell would be good for someone new to anime. Then again, they might enjoy some of the common tropes in anime because they haven't seen 5 trillion series that use them. I guess at the end of the day it just depends on who you're recommending it to and what genres they find interesting. For what it's worth, FMA, Haruhi and Fate/Zero were the series that made me really start to look into more of the anime that's out there so they might be worthwhile suggestions depending on who you recommend them too. Although I'm not sure how Haruhi would go over with someone who doesn't like anime and also lol endless eight.

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