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Topic Started: Jan 1 2012, 05:19 PM (2,514 Views)
Kiki
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Kiki Martius Chantico

Wally's right in saying rebuttal with a joke is to be expected, but that doesn't mean a joke answer isn't disrespectful.
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Wally Caine
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Honestly? Calm down, stop being paranoid and assuming people are doing things because they hate you, and live and let live. It doesn't take that much energy to scroll past a post that just says *intercourses*, so what is it really hurting?
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UltaFlame
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Thanks Poui.

As Kiki said, as expected as it may be, that does not make it disrespectful. IT may well be common sense to say "just move past it" but common sense is often intensely illogical. Reason > Common Sense, basically. And reason says that when someone makes a calm reasonable post with the intent of starting a serious discussion, going into it with the intent of being a troll and doing nothing but irritating said previous someone is disrespectful.
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Wally and Amiti are both right. At the same time, Amiti, you do have to let people have fun on the forum - we've all seen that more rules or restrictions just cause people to get angry and chafe more. Ignoring a post that says *intercourses* is pretty easy - you said so yourself that it was mostly in PG, right? We all might have things that bother us... and there's a very fine line to tread between one person joke and another's offence.
If a meme is overused, though, then it'll wear itself out. As is, it's one of the things that's a part of Temple culture.
Usually asking nicely, as between friends, will help more than anything. If you don't accuse, generally people are more than happy to tone things down. We dealt with something similar with the liquor and lolicon thing - still a little different, but same principle. Calling people
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It's childish, immature and shit I'd expect out of a 5th grader.

Does not help. As Gandhi said, "be the change you want to see in the world."
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Thanks Poui.

As well, going in with an open mind and not assuming that you either hold the moral high ground or that you know everything can also genuinely help.

After all, if you assume you know everything you may end up realising the "disgusting sick ew" thing is based in something entirely reasonable and your initial reaction was based off being either misinformed or uninformed!

So basically assume the best, not the worst, when it comes to your friends, my friends. Please do.
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The Commander
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Ulta and Satty bring up good points, sadly, the people that constantly throw the Intercourse in my face aren't people I consider friends, and thus, I feel very uncomfortable talking to them about it, probably due to preconceptions that I don't feel like testing or challenging.

Call it harsh, call it low, I'm sorry. I really am. But that's the way I've grown up and come to view the world.
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Satty and Ulta, both of you made good points, imma keep those thoughts in mind for myself.
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Well, hopefully the Temple can help you change that perspective, Amiti. I can't think of a single person here who is actually a bad person; far from it. So instead of not-friends, you could think of them as potential friends. It is certainly easy to formulate a negative opinion of someone when you don't know them well; it is another thing entirely to talk to them several times and have conversations, and still hold that negative opinion. It's tough to think of a single person that I've disliked after talking to them, making an effort to approach them. Not as an accuser or as someone who demands that they should change, but as someone to understand them.
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Kiki
Jan 1 2012, 11:24 PM
Satty and Ulta, both of you made good points
I read this as 'both of you make good pants'

I really think they would.
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Jan 1 2012, 11:29 PM
Kiki
Jan 1 2012, 11:24 PM
Satty and Ulta, both of you made good points
I read this as 'both of you make good pants'

I really think they would.
Obby. :eyebrow:
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Kiki
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Ulta would design them and Satty would sew them.
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The Commander
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And MadMustache would wear them.
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Kiki
Jan 1 2012, 11:36 PM
Ulta would design them and Satty would sew them.
So Ulta's the creative one and I'm the domestic one? :<
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Giraffes are adorable.

And thus a serious topic gets sidetracked.

Sometimes respectfully telling people to stop rather than accuse may help in most cases. Many people probably know my opinion on the KH series. I originally had a username based off a KH character. When i came back to ToK, in my intro topic I asked people to call me by my new name Sveta and to please refrain from using my old name. I thanked people who used my new one and sometimes in a silly joke corrected people when they reverted to my old name out of habit. Sometimes I even joke around with my old name such as Draco making a post on "Lol KPs, wait too soon?" when I originally posted "Lol RPs". I then said something like, "Kim Possible" was cancelled, so yeah too soon" to have fun with it. Bane made another post such as "Inb4Sveta/CO Lash" when he asked if he could be Riku. It is then I said that I would not erupt into anger every time someone posts about KH and that I am okay with people liking a harmless video game.

In return to respect people's right to like the KH series I gradually minimized my hateful posts on KH. It goes both ways.

Maybe tell those posters nicely that posting "intercourses" in your topic annoys you and if they say something like "I'm sorry" thank them for being considerate.
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Thanks Poui.

http://www.ulta.com/?cmpid=PSGO

Just expanding my horizons, Satty.
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And thus a serious topic gets sidetracked.


And I think this is one of the best things about Temple. Not every time it happens, but the idea that we can talk about potentially sensitive territory, have a disagreement/discussion, and afterwards still be able to play and tease each other as friends. That a serious topic doesn't stay a serious, irrepairable gap.

So I would be worn by Maddy, you say? :eyebrow:




.... also Luta do you give discounts? =o
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People on both sides, as a reminder you should be careful when directing your words at a person rather than their arguments. If one had said that the events Amiti described are not as serious as he perceived them to be, then it's a point against his argument. However, telling him to "stop being paranoid" is not addressing his argument, it's addressing his personal qualities. This topic isn't about Amiti, it's about fads and it even says so in the topic title.

And for future reference, if you feel that someone has misinterpreted a fact or a situation, it is up to you to understand that it's the thoughts of a person you're against and not the person expressing them. This is why in some situations people are the best of friends as long as they don't talk politics with each other. If you dissociate yourself with someone merely because they express an idea you don't like, not only are you missing out on the rest of the person's character but also you lock yourself in a cage doing it. Please do your best to stay open-minded in a discussion.

also pants where
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The Commander
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Kill Thalmor.

CO Lash
http://s9.zetaboards.com/The_Temple_of_Kraden/single/?p=8408013&t=7320359
And thus a serious topic gets sidetracked.

Sometimes respectfully telling people to stop rather than accuse may help in most cases. Many people probably know my opinion on the KH series. I originally had a username based off a KH character. When i came back to ToK, in my intro topic I asked people to call me by my new name Sveta and to please refrain from using my old name. I thanked people who used my new one and sometimes in a silly joke corrected people when they reverted to my old name out of habit. Sometimes I even joke around with my old name such as Draco making a post on "Lol KPs, wait too soon?" when I originally posted "Lol RPs". I then said something like, "Kim Possible" was cancelled, so yeah too soon" to have fun with it. Bane made another post such as "Inb4Sveta/CO Lash" when he asked if he could be Riku. It is then I said that I would not erupt into anger every time someone posts about KH and that I am okay with people liking a harmless video game.

In return to respect people's right to like the KH series I gradually minimized my hateful posts on KH. It goes both ways.

Maybe tell those posters nicely that posting "intercourses" in your topic annoys you and if they say something like "I'm sorry" thank them for being considerate.


I suppose I'll give it a try once I calm down a tick, and if someone does it again to me.

I'm not optimistic (in fact, I think I'm rather pessimistic about it), but it's probably better than biting my tongue so that I don't haul off and rail specific people in public topics.
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simplechild
Jan 1 2012, 11:50 PM
People on both sides, as a reminder you should be careful when directing your words at a person rather than their arguments. If one had said that the events Amiti described are not as serious as he perceived them to be, then it's a point against his argument. However, telling him to "stop being paranoid" is not addressing his argument, it's addressing his personal qualities. This topic isn't about Amiti, it's about fads and it even says so in the topic title.

And for future reference, if you feel that someone has misinterpreted a fact or a situation, it is up to you to understand that it's the thoughts of a person you're against and not the person expressing them. This is why in some situations people are the best of friends as long as they don't talk politics with each other. If you dissociate yourself with someone merely because they express an idea you don't like, not only are you missing out on the rest of the person's character but also you lock yourself in a cage doing it. Please do your best to stay open-minded in a discussion.

also pants where
Quoted for truth. When I'm cognizant, this is always the way I try to conduct myself. Since I know that I personally am far more than one or two ideas I have, and it's far more precise to deal exactly with what you are concerned with, than to sledgehammer a gemstone to smooth out a scratch.

Even if you're pessimistic, Amiti, you might find that getting results would change your mind. The human brain is extremely plastic, and who you are today doesn't mean you're locked into being that person forever. It's always possible to change your perspective on the world.
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You know what else is made of plastic, Satty? :eyebrow:
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