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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 1 2012, 05:19 PM (2,515 Views) | |
| The Commander | Jan 1 2012, 05:19 PM Post #1 |
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Temple fads are, in my opinion, supposed to be fun little diversions that shake up the status quo for a little while. Participation in them isn't obligatory in the slightest. If you don't like it, it's simple: you don't participate and you ignore it. But I've noticed that Temple Fads have recently started to go beyond that. In a negative way. The two examples I can think of off the top of my head are the "Monarch of X" fad and the "Intercourse" fad. Both of them succeeded in galvanizing the Temple into armed factions that resulted in mass pissing contests across every medium the Temple has: regular topics, S-box, Skype, MSN, you name it. That's not fun. That makes people want to ragequit, take hiatuses, or just walk away from the Temple entirely. That's not fun, that's stupid. REALLY stupid. I'm not going to advocate written laws and regulations on this. Most of these fads are the brainchild of a small number of people (or one person) and are enacted at the spur of the moment. What I am going to advocate is a little self policing that might avoid arguments and ragequittery: 1. Don't drive the thing into the ground over night. Case in point: "Intercourse". That thing was driven into the ground so hard and so fast that it ended up in the next damn galaxy within only a couple of hours. By the time we found it, there were two armed camps in the Temple ready for an all out war over it. Spread it out. Take your time with it. It might evolve into something more fun and enjoyable if it has time to breathe and settle. You never know. If you drive it into the ground right away, and keep running it, people are just going to roll their eyes at it before long. If you keep going, people are going to get pissed. 2. Be respectful of others. Case in point: "Monarch of X". The war going on in the Queen of Mars topic could have been avoided entirely if people just respected Thorion's wishes to be removed. Was there a war over the fiasco in the King of Fools topic? No. Why? Because Thorion corrected his mistake, and respected the wishes of the person who was upset. If your fad is going to involve other people, make sure they're cool with being involved. It's not hard to send a PM asking if they are or aren't. If you include someone just to piss them off and for your own lulz, it's going to drag more people in, and get more eye-rolling and pissed off-ness. I don't think I'm not asking a lot here, people. Just a little self restraint. |
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| Sundancer | Jan 1 2012, 05:21 PM Post #2 |
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Stargazer
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*intercourses topic* Asking for it. |
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| b l o n d e b o n d | Jan 1 2012, 05:31 PM Post #3 |
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Only fools pay for intercourse. Pros get it for nothing. *intercourses topic* |
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| Dracobolt | Jan 1 2012, 05:36 PM Post #4 |
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Folks, you don't have to agree with Amiti, but don't trollspam his topic, 'kay?
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| Kiki | Jan 1 2012, 05:40 PM Post #5 |
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I think Amiti made his points in a respectful way, so even if you don't agree, it's worth responding respectfully as well. I think the intercoursers have done a good job of keeping it in PG, which is where it mostly belongs. Amiti's second point is a good one, respect for all is essential always. If anyone feels disrespected, speak up to the causers. If someone tells you that you're being disrespectful, stoppit. Just a simple review there. 8D |
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| Hisui | Jan 1 2012, 06:17 PM Post #6 |
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Seccy "no fun allowed" Secundum
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Nice one Amiti! +100 |
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| LSunnyC | Jan 1 2012, 06:59 PM Post #7 |
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I was kinda surprised to see *intercourses* as the first response, since I didn't see anything unreasonable in the OP o_o And wasn't intercourses sort of a way around the old "raep"/"rape" fad of however long ago? It's a less violent term but I think it's still legit if people aren't exactly comfortable with it. Open minds~ |
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| Gilgamesh | Jan 1 2012, 07:05 PM Post #8 |
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Nope, it was simple retarded SPAM EVERY TOPIC WITH IT Amiti is 100% right. People always complain that they don't want ____ thing they don't care about shoved down their throats. That applies here too. First two replies pretty much say it all. |
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| Saturos | Jan 1 2012, 07:09 PM Post #9 |
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I'm still disappointed I didn't win King of Fools. |
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| Bane Martius Agni | Jan 1 2012, 07:26 PM Post #10 |
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>_> Thorion is a troll. |
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| Saturos | Jan 1 2012, 07:33 PM Post #11 |
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No Bane, you are the troll and then Bane lived under a bridge. On topic, the essence of what Amiti is saying is common sense, and the exact same rules we've always had here. Love thy fellow Kradenette as thyself. It's not that hard. ^_^ |
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| Shadow Milotic | Jan 1 2012, 09:32 PM Post #12 |
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Thank you, Amiti. I completely agree. |
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| ShinyGirafarig | Jan 1 2012, 09:38 PM Post #13 |
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Giraffes are adorable.
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Never looked at the whole [Monarch] of [clan] topics but the intercoursing posts did make me a bit uncomfortable. |
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| Wally Caine | Jan 1 2012, 10:22 PM Post #14 |
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I'm going to have to disagree with you, Amiti. You seem to be taking the reactions of a few, and extrapolating "Armed factions" out of thin air. Honestly, the pissing matches you are talking about seem to only exist within the confines of individual groups. It's only when people complain to each other, and feed off of other's anger, does the perception of "armed factions" come about. And even then, other than in the threads in question, it rarely involves the two sides talking to each other. It's only people preaching to their own choirs, and getting agreement, that even raises the perception of factions. However, there needs to be extended conflict, and each time, the disagreement has been worked out, and by the time the fad fades, no body really cares about what happened at the beginning, one way or another. When you get down to it, funnily enough, the primary emotion expressed on both sides outside of the temple is generally annoyance that anybody else is getting "worked up" over it. Personally, I think if people waited, calmed down, and then responded, many of the off the cuff annoyances would be reduced. But maybe that's just me being idealistic. Regardless, I think that looking at people venting over skype, and assuming that it's going to lead to ragequittery underestimates the ability of people to just... not click on threads that upset them. |
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| simplechild | Jan 1 2012, 10:30 PM Post #15 |
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My only feel is murder
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Agreeing with Wally to an extent. I do stand by your suggestions about fads, Amiti, but I sould not go as far as to say that there are armed factions or Temple division right now because of the current ones. Well, unless you can give me specifics on what kind of armed factions you're talking about. |
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| Boner Midget | Jan 1 2012, 10:33 PM Post #16 |
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"HAHA, LOOK AT HOW SMALL IT IS."
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Going as far as to say a war between certain people on Temple is over stepping, imo. I wouldn't use those harsh tones. I'm going with Wally on this. |
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| Seoulbowz | Jan 1 2012, 10:36 PM Post #17 |
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Supergeil
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*intercourses amiti* |
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| The Commander | Jan 1 2012, 10:39 PM Post #18 |
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I'll admit my wording might be extreme. But it doesn't change the fact that people honestly need to know when to take a fad and bury it, and let it remain dead. The first two replies to this thread, and the reply right above this one, are perfect examples of driving a fad well beyond it's natural life span, and just doing it to piss someone off. It's childish, immature and shit I'd expect out of a 5th grader. Now, for the record, am I pissed off about the *intercoursing*? No. I'm pissed off that people have that little respect for me that they just cough up these half-baked joke ass replies when I'm trying to offer some serious points of discussion. |
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| Wally Caine | Jan 1 2012, 10:45 PM Post #19 |
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...And your response is somehow more intelligent and enlightened? It's a joke. And when you mention a joke, the first thing you need to be prepared for is for people to do it in response to you mentioning it. It's a rule of humor. Mentioning the joke makes it far more likely to show up. |
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| The Commander | Jan 1 2012, 10:50 PM Post #20 |
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Kill Thalmor.
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What are you asking of me? |
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