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Theme Weeks
Topic Started: Oct 15 2011, 03:05 PM (8,081 Views)
Bane Martius Agni
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Remilia Stevelet
Oct 17 2011, 01:24 PM
I can't help but notice that the same handful of people I see opposed to the name changes are the same handful of people I know for a fact have sigs turned off, in which case it's their own goddamn fault they don't know who anyone is.
I have sigs on.
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UltaFlame
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Thanks Poui.

Again, Bowse, I request that you take that attitude elsewhere so we can focus on resolving the issue. This back and forth inflammatory gestures are getting nowhere and the equivalent of two judges in a debate flinging the middle fingers at each other and saying "No, your mother!"

EDIT: Bane, please, I'm trying to get this organised so we can move on, this drama is irritating and I don't want it so can we bloody damn well just figure something out already?
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Dracobolt
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Incorrigible

Also, I have sigs turned off but my main reason for wanting to limit name changes is because it's a hassle for me as an admin. >.>

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Bane Martius Agni
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Bowse wasn't really confrontational at all, IMO. Just addressing a certain point from a specific person.
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Seoulbowz
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I wasn't trying to be inflammatory. I was just trying to point out to Steve, that sweeping generalizations like that don't belong here, because they're incorrect.
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simplechild
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Did not have to add the "goddamned" on that, Steve.

It seems that the crux of the issue at hand is not really people having small theme weeks but a number of people inevitably not remembering to add their original name somewhere easily accessible (since checking name history is rather difficult, clunky and offensive for most people) when they change their name to accommodate for said week. Because of this oversight, questions about identity arise eventually, not because of the theme but rather because their identity is not readily apparent.

It saddens me that some of the userbase sees so many problems with the current system, but if it means less drama then I agree with restricting free name changes to more widespread Theme Weeks. While it is not hard to just do a little research to realize who a certain variation of Kris actually is, it's also not really necessary to completely immerse yourself in said Krisguise at the expense of others, nor is it necessary to overstay a Theme Week's welcome doing so.

EDIT: I had this nice long post ready to go against Adna's arguments and definitions, but realized that he isn't all that against small Theme Weeks as long as they stay avatar-only or are responsible with name changes.
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Kris, Awooer of Worlds
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Oct 17 2011, 01:33 PM
Also, I have sigs turned off but my main reason for wanting to limit name changes is because it's a hassle for me as an admin. >.>

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Didn't it used to be worse on invisionfree? :>
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UltaFlame
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Thanks Poui.

And it's still irrelevant to what we're trying to accomplish so it's -still- not helpful. And it's not helpful with me continuing this so I'm just going to ignore further pointless posts and wait for someone to respond to the compromise I suggested in my earlier post.
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Dracobolt
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Just a warning: should tensions escalate in this topic again, I may lock it for a period of time to allow people to cool down before reopening it. Folks in general are advised to watch their behavior and remain civil so that this does not come to pass. This is a general warning to all participants in this topic, whether new or old.

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Bane Martius Agni
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Ulta, I've been in general disagreement with you for most of this topic, but the points you made as a "compromise" sit well with me. I think it's reasonable and valid. I'm not sure discussion should stop there, but it should at least involve your three rules.
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Jenn-uh
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Ulta
 
So here's what I propose. Let's -not- say that there must be a minimum. Or if any, let's say it has to be seven or more. As Squee said, just because some children on the playground are playing one game doesn't mean the others have to take offense to it.
The smallest week we've seen is nine, so I really don't think seven is a good target if we only want to use name changes for larger weeks such as Pokemon (which had 40+ participants btw). There's about 100 active members so twenty users really shouldn't be a difficult goal to meet.
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Rule 1) The rule of having your username in your usertitle MUST be enforced. Without exception. Refusal to comply would result in either a warning or having your username reverted, whichever the mod in question prefers.
I definitely agree with this. =)
Ulta
 
Rule 3) Sigs don't need to be a part of theme weeks. Keep -something- in your sig that helps identify you if the theme week requires (or you choose to) that you change avatars.
I'm not sure this is necessary so long as they have a username as their title.

edit: managed to forget rule 2) 8D
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Rule 2) No more than one theme week per month. Theme weeks that try to take place during the downtime are allowed, but at the cost of any participant's three-month namechange. In addition, all Theme weeks must last for a single week (or two, if it's stated it would when) and must be announced at least a week prior to it happening. If the surprise is part of the Theme week, perhaps the staff could be alerted and waiving the week-prior announcement could be left to their discretion.
See, I prefer using a 'number of participants' system to 'x per month' because it accomplishes the same effect and is more flexible. To have at least 20 users sign up the event must be fairly universal, and that in itself narrows the number of theme weeks that require name changes. This 20-user system doesn't actually eliminate any smaller weeks, but the x per month does.

I'm really tired and I'm sorry if that's not worded clearly. ಠ_ಠ
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UltaFlame
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Thanks Poui.

How about ten members, then? Because I think twenty is significantly way too high, and the majority of peoples actually don't want changes or don't care either way, as evidenced by this second poll. I think we can work with ten members minimum, and no more than 2 per month. But this does not necessarily mean there must BE 2 a month. Only that there may only be two per month. So, to revise.

Rule 1) The rule of having your username in your usertitle MUST be enforced. Without exception. Refusal to comply would result in either a warning or having your username reverted, whichever the mod in question prefers.

Rule 2) No more than two theme weeks per month. Theme weeks that try to take place during the downtime are allowed, but at the cost of any participant's three-month namechange. In addition, all Theme weeks must last for a single week (or two, if it's stated it would when) and must be announced at least a week prior to it happening. If the surprise is part of the Theme week, perhaps the staff could be alerted and waiving the week-prior announcement could be left to their discretion.

Rule 3) There must be no less than ten participants in any Theme Week for it to count officially.
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Jenn-uh
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Out of curiosity, why do you think twenty is too high? Fifteen is about average for 'smaller' theme weeks. Most 'large' theme weeks (Pokemon, disney, etc.)are well over thirty. How many theme weeks in a six month period do you predict would have under seven participants? Didn't we establish earlier in the topic that having four participants was a laughable exaggeration?
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Tange9t
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I still stick to my opinion that if there is going to be a number, it should be 15.

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Kula Diamond
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about the username in title rule could i put it in the gender section or something

i don't use it for anything and i don't think that section can be turned off
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Bane Martius Agni
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I don't see why you CAN'T PUT IT IN YOUR TITLE


WUT
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The Phantom Squee
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Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?"

I think if there's a required number of participants, Tan's suggestion of 15 or so makes sense for me. My preferred option would be to leave it up to staff discretion, though. If it's obviously something all or most of the Temple is familiar with, free name changes; if not, then no.
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Momentime
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uh oh

I think we should limit niche weeks to just avatar changes, and then allow name changes for the really huge pop culture everyone knows it kind of stuff. That way there's no need to cry 'but you need x amount of people' 'i don't like it therefore it shouldn't happen' 'my e-peen doesn't seem as big today, pay attention to me'. No need for 'what the [radio edit], who allowed people to change names for xyz that I don't know and/or don't like' 'ahh I'm being discriminated against' or any of that bullshit.

Of course we'd have to define what's extremely huge pop culture and what's not, and I'll make it simple for all of you: what I like is pop culture; what I don't is not. Get it? Yes? Ok thanks everyone and have a good night!
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Bane Martius Agni
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The Phantom Squee
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Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?"

That's basically what's being said, yes, with fewer jabs. The main point of contention seems to be how exactly to define what constitutes "mainstream."
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