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Theme Weeks
Topic Started: Oct 15 2011, 03:05 PM (8,085 Views)
Peytral
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peytral pls

Saturos
Oct 16 2011, 04:46 PM
And if you can't find 20 people interested, does that really make it a Temple thing, or is it something for you and your friends?
So, about that Blazblue week you asked about...
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Saelnaha
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Let's just wait and see what happens.

Peytral
Oct 16 2011, 04:50 PM
Saturos
Oct 16 2011, 04:46 PM
And if you can't find 20 people interested, does that really make it a Temple thing, or is it something for you and your friends?
So, about that Blazblue week you asked about...
Also Touhou.
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Jenn-uh
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I hate to get super technical, but just to be clear, Tan:

Nine people signed up for Kris Week
Animorphs week had 14 people signed up
Doctor who week had ten participants
Nisa week - 14 Kradenettes were in


Kradenmas - Unknown. Seems like more than twenty
Man Week - surely over twenty, but I can't find a list.
Pokemon - I know there's a topic, but it's eluding me. More than twenty probably.
No one made a list for Boyd Week list so who knows >__>

Of those you selected to explain, the only three that met the proposed 20 participant minimum are Man, Pokemon, and Kradenmas weeks. Maaaybe Boyd week if someone can provide a quick list. Twenty is pretty generous too, since the poll says a large amount of kradenettes is 50%.

I've definitely participated in quite a few theme weeks, but I'm willing to settle for changing my avatar instead of my username if it means making the temple a better place for people who are not myself.


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Spooky

Yes, I see the perspective, but all the same, I'm one person and I'm pretty much the only example that can be used for such a thing, and I just made my point. I am trying to tone down on it and will continue to do so, there's really no reason to put in restrictions. 20 members, no matter how you look at it, is still a significant portion of the generally active members, and the temple is large enough at this point where all the different sub-cultures mean that it's going to be quite hard to get 20 people. 14 was pushing it on NISA week.

And then there's the fact a large number of things that weeks would be made for might not even have 20 characters. Restricting stuff that people are already taking measures to fix is a slippery slope, and no one seemed to have any problem with them before now.

Edit: Also, the finalized number on Kris Week was 11, not 9.

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Jenna
 
Of those you selected to explain,
the ones I mentioned were the only ones I participated in. This seems somewhat accusatory, my apologies if it wasn't intended to be seen as such.

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Edited by Tange9t, Oct 16 2011, 04:59 PM.
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Saturos
Oct 16 2011, 04:46 PM
I don't even know what NISA is. I still don't. <_< Isn't that being exclusionary, rather than something everyone in the Temple can be involved with?
Just because you don't know what Nippon Ichi Software America is and the games they produce does not mean that others don't. This entire argument is turning into "I don't do theme weeks, no one should at all." They also are not exclusive, anyone and everyone can join in if they want. In the topic for NISA week we invited everyone to join, we didn't say "Only our group allowed"

Do we really have to be having this discussion? Are things out of control and chaotic, or is everything being blown out of proportion AGAIN similar to past trivial issues.
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Hi, just popping in to say "remember, it's just a forum gag, step back for a moment if you get too passionate about it" Thank you have a nice day!
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RyuKenshin
Oct 16 2011, 05:00 PM

Do we really have to be having this discussion? Are things out of control and chaotic, or is everything being blown out of proportion AGAIN similar to past trivial issues.
I think it's being blown out of proportion, but not by asking for more restrictions. We're not asking you to stop liking these things, or not celebrate how much you like these things. Just, basically cool it on the name changes unless there are a lot of people involved.
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Remilia Stevelet
Oct 16 2011, 04:16 PM
So just because you think what someone else does is ridiculous, despite it not harming you in any meaningful way, you have the right to make him stop?
Yes, Steve. Just as I created the Board Awards many years ago to drive you away from the Temple twice yearly. I am the overlord, you all exist solely to amuse me and to do my bidding, and thus, everything on the Temple must be my way. I am glad that you are finally seeing the light. Soon, the sbox will be completely destroyed, all remnants of the monocle-face will have been purged from the Temple record books, and a ninety-fifth consecutive board awards will have passed, resulting in you again winning no awards. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Also, thanks for the flames, Ulta. I'm glad we're all so self-righteous, yet you're the one who's "[radio edit] EVERYTHING, IM TAKING M BALL AND GOING HOME BECAUSE I AM TOO GOOD TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS ARGUMENT." Real mature, bro.

As Satty said, small theme weeks are by nature, exclusionary. They alienate people that aren't involved in them/don't give a shit about whatever you're tlaking about. Seriously, they are a cause for a large amount of irritation for a lot of members, as the poll indicates here. It's not just grumpy old mean uncle Were hating everything these damned kids like people seem to think. There is an overwhelming preference to theme weeks that actually involve more people than they don't, and yet people think that 20% is a ridiculously high number.

I agree with the suggestions earlier in the topic. Have your theme week if you must, but unless it gets to x number of people, the name change applies. If it's THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU that you change your name to random video game/anime character, then [radio edit]ing go for it, blow your brains out with it, but then be subject to the consequences.
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Artemis
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Plus Ultra

Now, I prefer the larger weeks, but that's just because it helps me stave off confusion. It's a personal thing. I don't feel excluded when people decide to hold their "touhouponyboyd" weeks; it might just not be my thing, and I'm okay with that. All I ask is for people to put their names in their profiles, so I don't have to waste time when I actually want to communicate with someone.

I know that most of you do it, so it's fine. If the few who don't do it, start doing it, more power to you. We've already compromised on this; I don't see why we need to make it an issue again. It's rather pointless.
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Tange9t
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Jacob
Oct 16 2011, 05:06 PM
Seriously, they are a cause for a large amount of irritation for a lot of members, as the poll indicates here.
No, the poll indicates that >66% of the people who voted prefer larger weeks, not that the weeks are an irritation. There was no option that signified irritation.

Also, way to be inflammatory throughout your entire post while basically accusing Ulta of the exact same thing. Classy.

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RyuKenshin
Oct 16 2011, 05:00 PM
Saturos
Oct 16 2011, 04:46 PM
I don't even know what NISA is. I still don't. <_< Isn't that being exclusionary, rather than something everyone in the Temple can be involved with?
Just because you don't know what Nippon Ichi Software America is and the games they produce does not mean that others don't. This entire argument is turning into "I don't do theme weeks, no one should at all." They also are not exclusive, anyone and everyone can join in if they want. In the topic for NISA week we invited everyone to join, we didn't say "Only our group allowed"

Do we really have to be having this discussion? Are things out of control and chaotic, or is everything being blown out of proportion AGAIN similar to past trivial issues.
I could "invite everyone to join" for, say, an NFL theme week, and it would still exclude a large proportion of the Temple userbase by default. It doesn't matter if you invite someone if they didn't have any interest beforehand and won't have any interest afterwards. And no one is saying "theme weeks should be completely terminated and everyone should be banned for suggesting them," people (and not the distinct minority that some of the posts in here suggest) want to curb small theme weeks because they're an irritation towards a good portion of the people not involved wtih them.
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Momentime
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uh oh

shut up and sit down everyone i will propose a solution

instead of having the occasional theme week we will have 52 weeks, one for each week of the year. every temple member is subject to all of these weeks and will change their names accordingly. those who don't will be executed. this is non negotiable as it is the will of the facist empire. eventually after several decades we will get used to all the different names and all this will be settled

good idea? y/y
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TANNON THE CRUSHER
Oct 16 2011, 05:10 PM
Jacob
Oct 16 2011, 05:06 PM
Seriously, they are a cause for a large amount of irritation for a lot of members, as the poll indicates here.
No, the poll indicates that >66% of the people who voted prefer larger weeks, not that the weeks are an irritation. There was no option that signified irritation.

Also, way to be inflammatory throughout your entire post while basically accusing Ulta of the exact same thing. Classy.

:venus_djinn: :venus_djinn: :venus_djinn:
Way to act like you're being anything close to reasonable in this thread when you haven't been anywhere near it in any debate we've had on the Temple. :awesomeface:

I'm sorry that some people don't like your precious six man weeks or your thousands of name changes, please don't take it personally.
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imo we should put a restriction on the number of people entering

no more than 5 people to a theme week
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Jacob
Oct 16 2011, 05:10 PM
RyuKenshin
Oct 16 2011, 05:00 PM
Saturos
Oct 16 2011, 04:46 PM
I don't even know what NISA is. I still don't. <_< Isn't that being exclusionary, rather than something everyone in the Temple can be involved with?
Just because you don't know what Nippon Ichi Software America is and the games they produce does not mean that others don't. This entire argument is turning into "I don't do theme weeks, no one should at all." They also are not exclusive, anyone and everyone can join in if they want. In the topic for NISA week we invited everyone to join, we didn't say "Only our group allowed"

Do we really have to be having this discussion? Are things out of control and chaotic, or is everything being blown out of proportion AGAIN similar to past trivial issues.
I could "invite everyone to join" for, say, an NFL theme week, and it would still exclude a large proportion of the Temple userbase by default. It doesn't matter if you invite someone if they didn't have any interest beforehand and won't have any interest afterwards. And no one is saying "theme weeks should be completely terminated and everyone should be banned for suggesting them," people (and not the distinct minority that some of the posts in here suggest) want to curb small theme weeks because they're an irritation towards a good portion of the people not involved wtih them.
We already know for a fact that we will never reach a majority decision on any theme. There's a part of me that doubts even a Golden Sun week would get enough attention.

This is turning into the snoutbox argument, all over again. I'm seeing the factions forming, and this argument is going to be going on for quite a while, isn't it.
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RyuKenshin
Oct 16 2011, 05:19 PM

This is turning into the snoutbox argument, all over again. I'm seeing the factions forming, and this argument is going to be going on for quite a while, isn't it.
...Yes. That's what's called a debate. Things in life aren't easy, sometimes we have to talk it out.
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Guys, stop talking, sleep on it, and come back tomorrow. I'm serious. Your discussion isn't productive right now, and you are just throwing flames at each other right now. It's getting in the way of any real progress on the matter. Please stop, post deletion/edits come next. Thank you.

edit: I'm not against this discussion. Just carry it out in a more effective way. Members who are not all up in arms about this can't share their opinion with things as they are now.
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C'mon guys, it's just a suggestion that we should save name changes for bigger weeks. This isn't world war three. =C
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N7Bane
Oct 16 2011, 05:20 PM
RyuKenshin
Oct 16 2011, 05:19 PM

This is turning into the snoutbox argument, all over again. I'm seeing the factions forming, and this argument is going to be going on for quite a while, isn't it.
...Yes. That's what's called a debate. Things in life aren't easy, sometimes we have to talk it out.
But you see, this isn't debating. This is arguing. I could go into the details of how much ad hominem and needling already exists in this topic alone, but debates do not rely on such fallacious tactics to prove a point. It just makes people angrier with each other.

But yes, keep in mind that there is heightened security around this topic so if anyone chooses to encourage more griefing then there will be hasher consequences.
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*walks through the flames into this topic unaffected, like a badass*

If you want a limit so that theme weeks aren't like, five people, that's perfectly fine. Peytral, Will, Raven and I had an Ys Week, but since it was just the four of us we didn't name change. That said, 20's too high. I just looked through who posted in the Touhou thread, and there are less than 20 active people who are Touhou fans. You know, the series that got some backlash here since it seemed like it was "taking over the Temple." If Touhou's too small for a theme week, what's not? Homestuck? My Little Pony? Pokemon? Pretty sure the first two would cause backlash from the people that are tired of seeing one or the other. And we already had Pokemon weeks.

And like it has been said before, the poll says the Temple prefers big theme weeks to small ones. I prefer ribs to steak. I still like both. Not that I'm saying it's only 10% of the Temple saying they want to tone it down, I'm just saying the poll doesn't say everyone hates small weeks.
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