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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 15 2011, 03:05 PM (8,076 Views) | |
| simplechild | Oct 17 2011, 08:29 PM Post #221 |
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My only feel is murder
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Come to think of it, I wasn't aware of this topic until people started reporting things. >_> Also Dracooooooo don't go to the dark side just yet. We still have hope! |
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| Saturos | Oct 17 2011, 08:30 PM Post #222 |
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Should we move it to Feedback, since technically has become a feedback thing? xD |
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| Sundancer | Oct 17 2011, 08:30 PM Post #223 |
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Perhaps it can be shifted over to the Prophets Pulpit or Feedback? I nearly overlooked it even though I posted in it earlier when I voted in the first poll, mruuw. edit: Oops, Satty the post ninja, disregard me! |
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| Hell | Oct 17 2011, 08:30 PM Post #224 |
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I think the most silly thing about this debate is that it's self-fulfilling. When somebody claims it to be marginalising, that's only because they believe it themselves to be so. |
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| simplechild | Oct 17 2011, 08:31 PM Post #225 |
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My only feel is murder
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Topic has been moved to Feedback/Suggestions. |
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| Adnarel | Oct 17 2011, 08:32 PM Post #226 |
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I'd rather be outside.
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Isn't that what marginalization means? The feeling or act of being marginalized? |
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| Saturos | Oct 17 2011, 08:35 PM Post #227 |
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Well, we don't have to go 100% of logic, and screw rationalism, anyway. I think it's just as important to try to make people happy and make browsing the Temple fun and non-headache inducing, right? And trying to get as many people as possible to that stage should be a good thing, right? Also, Hell, just a note, but that's like saying if x individual feels marginalized, their feelings have no value. And I don't want to marginalize people who like theme weeks, either. I'm wondering if we can bring both sides together somehow. |
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| Dracobolt | Oct 17 2011, 08:36 PM Post #228 |
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Incorrigible
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I think it's more like someone making themself feel marginalized just because they like being miserable, kind of like a martyr complex. That's how I interpreted it, anyway. I don't know if that's what he actually meant, nor will I speculate on whether this is how things actually are or not.
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| Gilgamesh | Oct 17 2011, 08:36 PM Post #229 |
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Like I said, if my point with that post was "shut up mongrels let me browse in peace" then I would only have been on the winning side of each issue. I've been on both. And frankly in some cases you just can't please everyone. Like the Cbox. Some people want it. Some don't. So we have the Sbox instead. Then the argument came up again. The result? The Sbox, again. People need to understand that the point of compromise is that no, you don't get what you want, but neither did the other side. You gave an inch, and so did they. Also, SHANNON THE DESTROYER has a point, let's axe pointless name changes.
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| Dracobolt | Oct 17 2011, 08:38 PM Post #230 |
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Incorrigible
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Ftw. I'd go back to Dracobolt and never change my name again if need be. And if that was poking fun at one of my few non-theme week name changes, well, I'll be keeping this one for three months, so I'm within the established rules. I'm not changing willy-nilly and abusing my power. :<
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| Hell | Oct 17 2011, 08:39 PM Post #231 |
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I suppose so. However, there was never anything stopping them from asking about the series themselves. In this way, at least this is how I see it, there is no logical basis why somebody should feel marginalised. But honestly, it just comes down to how people feel about it. You said there was 14 (15 now) people you would feel guilty about not acting for. What about the 19 people you're forcing your view of marginisation upon? |
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| simplechild | Oct 17 2011, 08:40 PM Post #232 |
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My only feel is murder
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Also SHANNON THE DESTROYER didn't say anything about axing regular name changes. |
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| Pringamesh | Oct 17 2011, 08:41 PM Post #233 |
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I would like to point out that given the numbers in the poll there is no way that the numbers can mean anything except for the most active members opinion which are in strife unfortunately and also i don't think that most members would find this poll except for a small number. Like for my self i wouldn't have noticed it if i hadn't been alerted to this issue if it weren't for ryu or kell. also i wasn't alerted to an argument about this in the first place themes are just that themes just because there is a theme doesn't force people to participate also no matter who gets what they want here there is going to be someone a LOUD someone there always is no matter the issue that is going to feel cheated be loud and or annoying and will try to escalate the issue. I mean look at my post here good or bad this post is going to make the flames of this issue get even more heated or hopefully make it |
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| Jenn-uh | Oct 17 2011, 08:42 PM Post #234 |
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hunny bunchkins sugarcube lettuce chamomile sweetie pumpkin schnitzel fries
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Is it really asking that much that for a few theme weeks you forget about changing your username and just change your avatar? You know, for the benefit of others before yourself? =( |
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| Gilgamesh | Oct 17 2011, 08:42 PM Post #235 |
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solbowz Aurarius
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It's not really a theme week in of itself if there's no name changes (only talking about the really big/official/whatever name we're labeling on them, unless it's like, Monocle week which has no name changes). Also, that doesn't solve confusion. King of Weeks was brought up, so let's bring up Dracobolt week. I was annoyed for the entirety of the three months that Adna was stuck with Darcobolt because I couldn't tell you two apart ಠ_ಠ Don't preach against something while you do the same thing. |
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| Hell | Oct 17 2011, 08:44 PM Post #236 |
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I can ask the same thing. Is it really much to ask to let others enjoy themselves in the way they'd like to, just because you feel they shouldn't? Look, on the whole it's a small issue. Neither side is actually asking the other much. But that's just how it is. |
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| simplechild | Oct 17 2011, 08:45 PM Post #237 |
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My only feel is murder
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Can't really think of a better way to reiterate Adna's point of "learning from the past". |
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| Saturos | Oct 17 2011, 08:45 PM Post #238 |
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Can we not come up with something where say, 30 people aren't marginalized instead? Would there be anything you'd accept, Hell? Or would you want staff-authorized name change weeks as often as people want them, period? Not saying you hold the latter position, but I think that's the outcome of a total lack of regulation. :/ And Boyd, it's entirely possible for people's opinions to have changed. And Darcobolt was before we started asking people to put their names in their titles, and there are many more weeks now. EDIT: Epic topic activity is epic. >.> The post ratios for today should be lulzy. Anyway Hell, I think it's more of an issue than "we don't think we should have fun." Let's try not to be reductionist with people's opinions, please? Edited by Saturos, Oct 17 2011, 08:47 PM.
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| Hell | Oct 17 2011, 08:49 PM Post #239 |
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Personally, like I said, the rule restricts the fun, spontaneous nature of the Temple. But if you feel it's a rule that's important for us, that's up to you. So far, the one thing that both sides seem to be fine with is names in titles. Let's at least have that as a starting point, nyeh? |
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| UltaFlame | Oct 17 2011, 08:49 PM Post #240 |
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Thanks Poui.
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I think maybe this would work then: 1) Everyone must put their original username somewhere intheir profile that is available to everyone. Specifically, usertitle or gender areas. 2) The number of Theme Weeks in general should be limited in nature. Say, two every month MAXIMUM, but try to keep it to one every two months if at all possible. In addition, keep Theme Weeks to, well, a single week, please. Does this work? Please tell me it works. It seems to be the most middle ground we can come up with that doesn't favor one side too much. |
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