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Suggestion for the Various Skins; Easy to identify post icon things!
Topic Started: Sep 15 2011, 02:07 AM (2,066 Views)
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Gonna be blunt - when it comes to those little jewel things next to the topic in the jupiter skin , I've no clue what the hell they mean. Try this instead:

Posted Image - normal topic
Posted Image - normal topic you've posted in
Posted Image - normal poll
Posted Image - normal poll you've posted in
Posted Image - hot topic
Posted Image - hot topic you've posted in
Posted Image - hot poll
Posted Image - hot poll you've posted in
Posted Image - very hot topic
Posted Image - very hot topic you've posted in
Posted Image - very hot poll
Posted Image - very hot poll you've posted in.

I think for new posts, you would use one of the following pics, depending on the clan skin:

*snip*
Topics you've posted in that have new posts moved to next post. Stupid image limit... grr.

Also, because I could, new post notification for topics you've not posted in. I have two variants to choose from.

Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - new posts for topics you've not posted in, set A.
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - new posts for topics you've not posted in, set B.

Noticed locked threads have something. Here's a set for locked.

Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - Locked threads.
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Here's what the new posts in topics you've posted in would be:

Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - Jupiter
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - Venus
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - Luna
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - Mercury
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - Mars
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - Sol
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - Default

If desired, I'll make another set for something I may have missed.
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Dracobolt
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Those look pretty sweet to me. If there aren't any objections, I can try them out later today.

:mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn:
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Thanks. Also edited in notifications for new posts in topics you've not posted in.

I think this is all, but if there's anything else, let me know and I'm sure I can come up with something.
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Saelnaha
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Let's just wait and see what happens.

Looks like a plan to me.

Posted Image
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Dreaming Sun
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Hmm, I actually like these, a lot better than the ones we do have. Whether or not it matters, normal member stamp of approval?
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Ninja Steve
Sep 15 2011, 02:49 AM
Looks like a plan to me.

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I got a ninja steve approves pic reply! I'm so happy!
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First post updated to include the following:

New Posts in thread you've not posted in (set A)
New Posts in thread you've not posted in (set B)
Locked Threads
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Jenn-uh
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For reference, here's what the elemental stars mean:

Posted Image - Topic with unread posts
Posted Image - Topic with no unread posts

Posted Image - Hot Topic with unread posts
Posted Image - Hot Topic with no unread posts

Posted Image - Poll with unread posts
Posted Image - Poll with no unread posts

Posted Image - Locked Threads

To show if you've posted in a topic Posted Image appears at the end of the topic title.

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To be honest, the current set-up we have looks simpler to me. =\
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Gonna be blunt - not obvious at all. In fact, very confusing. Only the 'locked' on really makes sense.
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Archon Agni, of Clan Martius

Are the rest of the skins finally gonna get these?
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Jenn-uh
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They're both similar actually.

Our system is based on three colors: red, green, and blue. To show that a tread has been read or not, the colors are the same just lighter.

Your set-up is also based around three colors - Bronze, Silver, and Gold, but instead of using another shade to show if there are new posts, there's an elemental star in the corner.

Once you have those concepts down you're good to go. ^^;
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Jenna
Sep 15 2011, 10:07 AM
For reference, here's what the elemental stars mean:

Posted Image - Topic with unread posts
Posted Image - Topic with no unread posts

Posted Image - Hot Topic with unread posts
Posted Image - Hot Topic with no unread posts

Posted Image - Poll with unread posts
Posted Image - Poll with no unread posts

Posted Image - Locked Threads

To show if you've posted in a topic Posted Image appears at the end of the topic title.
Venus skin doesn't have these. :awe:
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I also provided a variant for each skin. Which the jewel mess doesn't have.

Also, your RGB thing isn't close to mine. I have stuff for three levels of activity - normal, kinda popular, and very popular - as well as poll versions of them. You have Normal, popular, and poll. That's... three to my six. Plus, mine actually make sense.
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Jenn-uh
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Oh, for sure your set up has way more icons than the current one, but I thought we were changing it to avoid confusion? More symbols = more to learn.

For example:
In your system there are eight different topic icons to show if you've posted in a topic or not:
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - new posts for topics you've not posted in, set A.
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image - new posts for topics you've not posted in, set B.

In the elemental stars there's only Posted Image or lack of icon at the end of a topic title.

I do like your system, Role. It can tell you way more about a topic just by looking at the icon, but for the purpose of simplification it seems strange to switch a system of eight different topic icons for another with thirty icons. Maybe I'm just weird.


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This is all about ease of use, is it not? I've been here for years, and the Jupiter skin's icons are easily the most confusing, save for the locked icon.

You claim that it tells you way more about the topic - and that's exactly it. It's very simple, and while there's a lot more icons, the icons are not only more straightforward, but they are quite obvious as to what they mean. You claim that something at the end of a topic title is good enough, but the way I'm looking at things, there's times when it's not exactly obvious - especially when my browser fails to load that icon.

If nothing else, give it a shot - two or three weeks with it. If people like it more than the old system, keep it. If they like the old system more, switch back.


This applies to each skin individually - I know venus is using default stuff, and Ryu actually said he liked these and requested me to add the other elements - it's why I've got one for all of them, rather than just for jupiter.


Remember, though... For a forum, User Friendly > Minimalistic. Keep it in mind.


Also, I count six different base icons. You'll have:

Unposted, no new posts
Unposted, new posts
Posted, no new posts
Posted, new posts
Locked.

30 different icons - but they very clearly tell you what it is.

Thread or Poll
Posted or Not
Read or New Posts
Locked/Not

You cannot say the same about yours - you keep bringing up that you have multiple sets of icons to do that. Also, where'd you get 8? Isn't that your system, not mine?

I also would like to point out that I didn't know what the gems meant until you pointed it out to me... I don't see them on the forum anywhere.
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Gilgamesh
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As long as I can tell the difference between read and not read, that's all I need. It wastes precious seconds of browsing time where I'm in a bright room and I can't figure out if I read in a topic or not since the elemental star colors are too simliar :U
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Gilgamesh
Sep 15 2011, 11:18 AM
As long as I can tell the difference between read and not read, that's all I need. It wastes precious seconds of browsing time where I'm in a bright room and I can't figure out if I read in a topic or not since the elemental star colors are too simliar :U
Thank you - this exactly. It's confusing because it's just not very clear.

Would also like to point out, that when using the jupiter skin...

Posted Image This doesn't show up. Ever. It uses a », and really isn't noticable at all.
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Saturos
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Yeah, sorry Role, I personally prefer what we have way better. I like the smaller images, they stretch the page less. And I can tell at a glance what's going on.
I'm pretty sure they're the statue-eye jewels, by the way. xD
Also Role, I don't think there's any way we can have "kinda popular" and "very popular" topics? Or at least, I've never seen an option for those.

All I would ask is please consult with the Leader+Second of Jupiter before making changes to their skin, kindly don't touch my classic Gold (which uses the same things xD), or my Sol Clan, which also uses the same things.
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Satty, I'd agree with you, if there was somewhere on this site that explained what those things meant. But there's not.

Pretend you're new to the site, and you don't know stuff yet.

Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

Decipher that. Using all the knowledge of a noob who doesn't already know, go find on the forum, outside of people posting what it is, what these mean.


My turn.

Hmm, I'm new here. Bronze, Silver, and Gold eh (or in the case of being limited to two ranks, just Silver and Gold)? Gee, I wonder what that could possibly mean. There's a key on one of them, guess it's locked or something - yup, can't post in it. All these (!)... Oh, when I read that one earlier, it went away - it's blank now. That must mean there's a new post in the thread. Oh, look, the one I posted in has this star thing, but it's off. Oh, it's only been five minutes, but it changed - I wonder what that - oh, someone replied to me. And it's back to turned off. Oh, hey, this symbol is different than the oth-Oh, I see! There's a poll in it! Yeah, all the ones that use that multi-coin symbol thing have polls!

Over the course of 7-8 minutes... I know what everything means. I also don't think the page stretch is gonna really matter - again, test it on something and see how it looks. I know venus is interested, let them show it off.


Edit: Page stretch my ass. I just measured this - they'll fit without stretching. Don't believe me? Do you have firefox? Some other tab-okay browser? Open a topic list in a new tab. Drag image. Hold in place over stupid gem thing. Notice how it fits in the box fine? Yeah. THAT.
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