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An Open Letter To Everyone Involved
Topic Started: Aug 13 2011, 11:54 PM (2,754 Views)
Wally Caine
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It's my personal feeling that this is being blown a bit out of proportion. Unfortunately, I can also see where it's coming from. Because Hinoa and Tan and the rest of them don't have access to the Slumber Party, it doesn't matter to us if Jenna makes a point of not clicking on anything else in there. We can't see it. So while I do think the invasion of privacy has been a bit overblown, it's not unreasonable to ask for some assurance.
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Super Slash


As for the topic at hand, as Wally said, it's the principle of the matter. We don't do it to the females, so they shouldn't do it to us, is basically what Hinoa is saying. I personally don't really care either way unless it got to the point where the forum might as well be public.
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LSunnyC
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The Fallen Duchess

Well, I certainly won't go encouraging it if I see mention of it.

It's a valid point behind the thread, I see no problem with the request. I just wasn't aware of it happening.
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simplechild
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I'll support this as well: Due punishment will be enforced if this ever happens again.
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

We also have the issue of someone being afraid to be seen as a "snitch" and therefore will not tell that someone of their gender is sneaking in to the other subforum. We should think of a way to encourage people to tell the staff without feeling afraid.
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LSunnyC
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The Fallen Duchess

PM an admin privately and ask not to be disclosed?

Sunny sees no issues with snitchery. If anyone in the ladies forum is afraid of snitching, they can PM me and I'll ring the culprit up myself if need be.
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Boner Midget
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"HAHA, LOOK AT HOW SMALL IT IS."

As Sunny said, a PM is probably the best idea for that sort of situation. Just ask not to be publicly ousted as the one who 'snitched' as we put it.
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Wally Caine
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Honestly, as I already said, it sounds like little, if any, of that they're being accused of actually happened. No one, as far as I know, has gotten access to the Man Cave for the purpose of "spying" on the guys. It's always been a joke, or few posts, and then they're done. No one, as verified by Jenna and Sunny's statements, has shared Any information with the rest of the slumber party. There's never been an information leak, unless someone's been passing information individually, and this has somehow missed every female who's posted in this thread so far.
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simplechild
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Yet that's not necessarily the problem. It's because such things are possible right now that the Man Cave has been stifled of man-related discussion as of late.
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Gilgamesh
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For example, Wally, what if I somebody wanted to make a thread titled "I have erectile dysfunction, what do," they wouldn't have to read into the topic to know that the TC has erectile dysfunction, they found that out just from the name.
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SeaMonkeyFarmer
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I can see that there is an issue here, but it's upsetting that some of the boys think so low of the girls and their personalities. Ah well. And yes, I know my boyfriend's password and can easily log on to his account. But no, I don't do that.
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love the Temple, come for the RPs, stay for the delicious drama. love you guys forever and for always <33333
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Wally Caine
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Basically, what Els said. That said, as I mentioned earlier, it makes sense to ask for reassurance. I'm just establishing that not much has occurred in the past.
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Vačscent
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Jacob
Aug 14 2011, 02:11 AM
love the Temple, come for the RPs, stay for the delicious drama. love you guys forever and for always <33333
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Ahahahahahahaha, I am tempted to sig this. *EXACTLY what I was thinking*
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M'kay, done.
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Dracobolt
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I agree with TC. I love that I feel safe and secure in the SP to post about anything. I see no problem with girls pestering their male friends about, like, "so, what are you guys up to, c'mon, c'mon," we've always done that, and it's happened both ways, I've told some guys very vague info about some of our more harmless, silly topics, "oh yeah, the lesbian pillow fights, teehee!" But if it goes beyond basic wiliness, then it's not on, in my opinion, and that's why I pushed to make sure rule one was included the way it was. Guys, if you have any proof of girls accessing your forum, let the staff know. Ladies, think of it from their perspective: would you really want a guy seeing our forum, even if you knew that he wouldn't click topics? Some guys, yes, some of us would be comfortable with including them. But it also comes down to a matter of respect for others. I might be comfortable with, say, Satty being in the SP, but Sveta might not be, and I should respect her for that. I hope this post was coherent, but I'm basically stating agreement. We need to live in peace and respect, because this forum has always been more of a community than most internet forums, so let's keep it that way.

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The Commander
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Kill Thalmor.

SeaMonkeyFarmer
Aug 14 2011, 02:11 AM
I can see that there is an issue here, but it's upsetting that some of the boys think so low of the girls and their personalities. Ah well. And yes, I know my boyfriend's password and can easily log on to his account. But no, I don't do that.
Well, I think some it's justified. After all, we're not the ones barging into your forum and PINNING Yoai/yuri/whatever fics for everyone to see when the drop in. Which was the reason I ragequit the Man Cave a few weeks ago.

As a side note, now that it seems that the sanctity of the Man Cave is restored, I've reapplied, now that this issue seems to be beyond us
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Saturos
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heart-under-blade

I agree with Wally, Els, Jake, and Jenna here. I thought the Temple was supposed to be for fun, and lighthearted teasing is definitely a part of that. As the ladies said, nothing personal was actually spilled, and it was just a one-time thing - and frankly, it was completely worth it for the lulz that were had.
It's definitely not worth blowing it completely out of proportion and causing drama over. A simple "Please stay out of the man forum" would have sufficed, and that in a personal message, instead of a huge topic.

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Bane Martius Agni
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Saturos
Aug 14 2011, 09:52 AM
...It's definitely not worth blowing it completely out of proportion and causing drama over. A simple "Please stay out of the man forum" would have sufficed, and that in a personal message, instead of a huge topic.

lulz because Temple.
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Saturos
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heart-under-blade

Also, the Man Cave has -always- been inactive. I dunno what you all are talking about. =P
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Moose
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guys its just a subforum. it was never meant to be 1000000000% impregnable its just a silly immature place for people to talk about everyday manly things. dont believe me? check page 6 and compare it with page 1. its only recently that it's turned into a cluster[radio edit] fortress for emotionally and socially incompetent lady-men.
like seriously calm down
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