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An Open Letter To Everyone Involved
Topic Started: Aug 13 2011, 11:54 PM (2,750 Views)
Hinoa
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Dear Ladies of the Slumber Party,

BACK THE HELL OFF.

We don't go around and try to get into your forum, except in jest. We don't really care anymore. However, since you (mostly Jenna) have been entering the Man Cave like a bunch of elementary-school brats trying to sneak into the boys' room, activity there has flatlined. We used to talk about stuff. We don't anymore, now that we know we don't have privacy.

What all of us need to do is stop. The Gendered forums are places where we can talk about stuff we wouldn't feel comfortable talking about among the other sex. To have them peeking in from time to time ruins the whole point. Therefore, I propose:
1.) Enough applying to the other forum, even in jest.
2.) No sneaking into the other forum on other accounts, per Temple Rule #1. This hasn't been enforced at all with the incidents we've had, and it needs to start.

Sincerely, the Undersigned:

--Hinoa F. Arash
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Tange9t
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Spooky

Also signing. The gender forums are meant to be there for a goddamn reason, and the 'lol applying' jokes aside, there're very few, if any, of us on the male side that make any real effort to access the slumber party. The reason? We don't care, and in my case at least, don't really actually want to know.

Now, there are certain things I would like to discuss in ToMA given a chance, which I wouldn't be comfortable sharing with the entire freaking forum. Yours is secure enough that you can, from what I've been told, discuss personal things relatively worry-free. We don't have that luxury, because we have a history of y'all walking straight in, whether through using your boyfriends' accounts, or accidentally being let in, or whatever, thus we are on edge and not so privvy to discourse regarding said private stuff, which, y'know, we might want to actually discuss with a few people so that it's not gorram pent up.

So kindly back off and let us do so, like we've been generous enough to do for you.

Sincerely,

Tangent.

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Jenn-uh
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hunny bunchkins sugarcube lettuce chamomile sweetie pumpkin schnitzel fries

Good Lord. Seriously Hinoa?

I was in there for a grand total of three days. >_> If I wanted to be invasive I would have posted in more than one topic. I wouldn't have told Satty how to remove the Lethael account from there if I wanted to read your personal male drama. Please don't take something harmless and fun and turn it into an issue.

Now, if you have substantial proof that girls are actively reading all your topics, feel free to share it. To my knowledge none of the girls are in there.
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Gilgamesh
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You know, I'll just say that it's really hypocritical that you girls have no problem peeking in our forum when you have a [radio edit]ing password to protect yours.
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Tange9t
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Spooky

The issue is that it has happened, and not just with you, and certain people could easily access again if they so wished. It's a frequent occurrence at this point, which is completely ridiculous.

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Hinoa
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Jenna
Aug 14 2011, 12:04 AM
Good Lord. Seriously Hinoa?

I was in there for a grand total of three days. >_> If I wanted to be invasive I would have posted in more than one topic. I wouldn't have told Satty how to remove the Lethael account from there if I wanted to read your personal male drama. Please don't take something harmless and fun and turn it into an issue.

Now, if you have substantial proof that girls are actively reading all your topics, feel free to share it. To my knowledge none of the girls are in there.
The issue is not just now, the issue is also then.

And frankly, it's not harmless or fun. It's an invasion of privacy, and it's also against Rule #1 of the Temple. It's incredibly immature, in my humble opinion, that you would even seriously consider this.
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Bane Martius Agni
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Couldn't we just add a password, also?
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Hinoa
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That would be a good solution, Bane. I'd still like to take a look at the underpinnings of the issue, though.
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Tange9t
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Spooky

The password wouldn't help, due to a lot of the access being through other peoples accounts, which is a MAJOR part of the issue, since, as hinoa pointed out, such an act is technically hacking, thus a TOS violation.

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Bane Martius Agni
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Hinoa
http://s9.zetaboards.com/The_Temple_of_Kraden/single/?p=8350260&t=7297884
That would be a good solution, Bane. I'd still like to take a look at the underpinnings of the issue, though.


For sure, it's always good to fix the roots, but the limbs need trimming too. If my metaphor isn't totally lame.

Tan, if a forum requires a password, won't it need to be entered every time you wanted to visit that particular forum? Not sure, considering that the last time I was in a board with a password was back in my younger days when I was in Red Rose.
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Tange9t
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Spooky

Nope. Going by experience on the password protected forum in sugarcube corner, once you've entered it once on that account, you're in for good.

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ShinyGirafarig
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Bane
Aug 14 2011, 12:17 AM
Hinoa
http://s9.zetaboards.com/The_Temple_of_Kraden/single/?p=8350260&t=7297884
That would be a good solution, Bane. I'd still like to take a look at the underpinnings of the issue, though.


For sure, it's always good to fix the roots, but the limbs need trimming too. If my metaphor isn't totally lame.

Tan, if a forum requires a password, won't it need to be entered every time you wanted to visit that particular forum? Not sure, considering that the last time I was in a board with a password was back in my younger days when I was in Red Rose.
Once you put a password in place then you can always access it.

Also even though I never had interest in what goes on at the Man forum and I respect your privacy, I still apologize on the behalf of those involved.
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Jenn-uh
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Okay, and have the girls been posting in your personal topics? Have they been bringing up their contents in daily conversation? Probably not, because if they ever got into the mancave at some point it was to say 'haha your security is terrible' and then they never pop in again. Do you have any reason to believe girls are going beyond that?

I don't mean to come off as rude, but these accusations that the girls constantly snoop around in sensitive topics are just the spawn of paranoia and really insulting. I wasn't planning on trying, and I won't even joke about going back in there. Sorry I offended you so.
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Boner Midget
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"HAHA, LOOK AT HOW SMALL IT IS."

As Sveta said, I'm sorry that this has turned into something like this. There was a point when I first joined I was going to try and get in the Mancave for shits and giggles, but I wouldn't go out and blab to everyone else your private matters - especially to the girls in SP about it.

I respect your privacy, and it sucks you are unable to let out without the fear of being found out. Even with a password that you type in once, it's better than having nothing. It may not be perfect, but it's something. Getting the girls who have BFs on here to promise not to get into the Mancave is something that could be considered as well. It may not be perfect, but it's something.

Even having some sort of punishment - in a sense - for someone going against that rule is something else to consider, imo. Not anything too harsh, but punishment enough where the message will sink in.
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DJ Octavio
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The point Jenna is that this wasnt the first time that has happened. I support this letter as an admin who hasnt been keeping up with the rules. While our topics havent been brought up, the fact that they could be looked at is the root cause.

Whats being asked here is to have both sides respect each other and just stay out.
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LSunnyC
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I can't think of a mancave infiltration beyond Jenna's a few months back (I think it was Jenna's anyways), and she made a point in the SP of not clicking on any of the threads. I think the only screenshots we have of the man-cave are from the time when both gender forums were trading mock-ups o_o

If this isn't the case, then I still stand by not having known about it. Also, and this may be incorrect, but I'm PRETTY sure that the SP password relies on cookies, since I've had to enter it more than once due to different computers and such. So it's not like if Delf puts in the password from Australia, then I hack Delf's account from Canada and get instant access to the Mancave. I just get Delf's account snerksnerkgotcha!
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

When I log in different computers, I don't have to put the subforum password again.
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LSunnyC
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The Fallen Duchess

Canada > you?

I coulda sworn I've put in the SP password when signing in from a public terminal...
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Jenn-uh
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Sunny-chan
Aug 14 2011, 12:33 AM
I can't think of a mancave infiltration beyond Jenna's a few months back (I think it was Jenna's anyways), and she made a point in the SP of not clicking on any of the threads. I think the only screenshots we have of the man-cave are from the time when both gender forums were trading mock-ups o_o

If this isn't the case, then I still stand by not having known about it. Also, and this may be incorrect, but I'm PRETTY sure that the SP password relies on cookies, since I've had to enter it more than once due to different computers and such. So it's not like if Delf puts in the password from Australia, then I hack Delf's account from Canada and get instant access to the Mancave. I just get Delf's account snerksnerkgotcha!
Mm, this was actually the work of Sabre Dance.
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Aug 14 2011, 12:23 AM
As Sveta said, I'm sorry that this has turned into something like this. There was a point when I first joined I was going to try and get in the Mancave for shits and giggles, but I wouldn't go out and blab to everyone else your private matters - especially to the girls in SP about it.

I respect your privacy, and it sucks you are unable to let out without the fear of being found out. Even with a password that you type in once, it's better than having nothing. It may not be perfect, but it's something. Getting the girls who have BFs on here to promise not to get into the Mancave is something that could be considered as well. It may not be perfect, but it's something.

Even having some sort of punishment - in a sense - for someone going against that rule is something else to consider, imo. Not anything too harsh, but punishment enough where the message will sink in.
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