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| Gilgamesh | Jun 15 2011, 06:00 AM Post #141 |
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...Ah, right, that's true. There were a few things I could do with my Fire Style that I couldn't do with other things though. Like using Lava Stage, FireRat without having to waste another chip, the charge shot doing 200 if the opponent was on a grass panel...that might be all though, come to think of it. Oh well. Speaking of which, in 3 using HeatGround was a great way to control the field. One charge shot, an entire row becomes cracked. |
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| Role | Jun 15 2011, 06:05 AM Post #142 |
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Oh, tell me about it. If I could have a second style, that'd be it. By the way, what is your favorite element and weapon type? So basically, choose between Heat, Elec, Aqua and Wood... And between Swrd, Brak, Crsr, and Wind. For me? Element is easy - Wood element for the win. Weapons, though... that's hard. I'm a big fan of both sword and wind chips... But I'm gonna probably have to fall back on Sword. Always handy to have them. |
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| Gilgamesh | Jun 15 2011, 06:12 AM Post #143 |
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Favorite element would have to be fire. I mean sure, Wood attacks don't cause mercy invincibility, but I've just always liked fire in general and the selection of fire chips usually appealed to me. For weapon type, even though I use swords MUCH more often, it'd probably have to be break chips. Their ability to break through enemy defenses is just so useful/satisfying. Also that hockey puck chip is just plain fun to use. |
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| Role | Jun 15 2011, 06:27 AM Post #144 |
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There's ways around flinching, though - especially in 6, so you don't have to worry about that very much. But yeah, I prefer rapidfire attacks to the hard hitting ones, even if many are weaker. Supervulcan, for example, only does 100 damage in its base form - there's easily many attacks that out damage it. However, the potential they have is something I just love. Throw on a few plus parts and bam, damage multiplies like rabbits. Of course, there's pros and cons... wood loves the multi-hit stuff, but fire can dish out 4x damage. Elec can do that, and can paralyze as well (though is usually weaker as a result). Aqua... ... What can aqua do? |
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| Gilgamesh | Jun 15 2011, 06:35 AM Post #145 |
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Yeah, the Attack Plus chips pretty much make almost any multi-hit attack worth using. Well, not all Elec chips can paralyze. Some Aqua chips can trap enemies in bubbles, and ALL Aqua chips freeze opponents that are standing on ice panels. Enemies trapped in bubbles take double damage from Elec attacks, and frozen enemies take double damage from Elec AND Break attacks, letting Aqua do X4 damage as well. |
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| Role | Jun 15 2011, 06:41 AM Post #146 |
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No, the bubbles thing was a specific chip/soul/cross thing, and the freezing is unique to 6 in BN... |
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| Gilgamesh | Jun 15 2011, 06:44 AM Post #147 |
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Was freezing only around as late as BN6? I thought it came earlier. Oh well. A specific chip that causes the bubble effect is in like every game though :U In general though, most aqua chips don't do anything. Well, aqua attacks DO wash away lava panels, but that's about it. |
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| Role | Jun 15 2011, 06:53 AM Post #148 |
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A lot of good that does, though. As for the bubble thing... I can only think of two off the top of my head, one in BN1 and one in BN6. BN2 would count had it not been a bubble shield, which was also used by Bubbleman in 3... What chips did it in other games? I know both bubble and freeze were common in SF, but not BN... |
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| Gilgamesh | Jun 15 2011, 07:07 AM Post #149 |
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Hm, I think Bubble Wrap was also in 5 and 6, but it didn't do the double damage thing and instead Elec attacks just pierced it and made it not regenerate. Yeah, I guess I must've been thinking of SF; a quick search on GameFAQs shows that it's pretty much just the ones you were thinking of... What DOES seem to be a trend amongst Aqua chips is having lots of spread damage with things like Bubble Shot. Come to think of it, is there even a game in the series that doesn't have some variant of that? ...Anyway, it's like 8 am, so I'ma head to bed now, talk to you later. |
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| Crash | Jun 16 2011, 11:51 PM Post #150 |
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Wheey! I've became a human being!! I am very handsam!
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I thought about something today--you know in some of the Mega Man X games where you have to rescue the reploids scattered throughout the levels? Why the heck did they even need rescuing? They're just standing there, and all you do is touch them, and they beam out. What was stopping them from beaming out before? Same thing with the Jinjos, man. |
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| Gilgamesh | Jun 16 2011, 11:54 PM Post #151 |
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Maybe you were carrying a portable warp device thing? They DO exist in Zero 2, even if that is a century later... |
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| Role | Jun 19 2011, 02:50 PM Post #152 |
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Read: They learned their lessons from BN4. They're not doing that again. |
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| Gilgamesh | Jun 19 2011, 04:09 PM Post #153 |
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They didn't even have to learn their lesson; as stated there, they wouldn't exactly make any money off of a SF4, even if it was somehow the best game ever. |
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| The Sin Thesis | Jun 19 2011, 04:15 PM Post #154 |
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I know we're talking about Mega Man here, but I couldn't hold to Star Force. It managed to move from the series from pseudo-science/science fiction to just plain implausible bullshit. |
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| Role | Jun 19 2011, 04:23 PM Post #155 |
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The theory was that old civilizations developed advanced technology (which they did - this is half-truth in television here), but kinda blew themselves up with it. If you were paying attention, it would have sounded plausible - if one of them hadn't been dinosaurs. The second game was pretty bad both in terms of story and gameplay. Luckily the third game fixed that - easily as good as BN2/6, IMO. Too bad the series was dead in the eyes of most thanks to the first and second games... |
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| Gilgamesh | Jun 19 2011, 05:36 PM Post #156 |
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While dinosaurs are indeed the least sensible, knights and ninjas that have civilizations based on radio waves doesn't make any sense either. Plus, remember, the main timeline games take place in the real world, and BN seemed to do so as well, since, minor changes like giving Light and Wily families aside, the reasons why the timelines split was due to Dr. Light researching internet technology instead of robotics. So the ancient civilizations introduced in SF2 kind of shit all over that. Also this is a minor, blink and you'll miss it thing, but come on, SF1 had a black hole generator. In a museum. Which means it's out of date. |
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| Role | Jun 19 2011, 05:42 PM Post #157 |
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No, those can be justified. If Ancient Culture N's remnants were the ancestors of today's eastern culture, and Ancient Culture B's remnants were the ancestors of today's western culture, then the symbolism and stories would have been preserved - thus the Ninja and the Berserker. If they had explained it well, it'd work very well for them... If it weren't for dinosaurs, the only branch that really can't be explained. So while the Ancient Cultures thing could have said "in this timeline, this has happened before with disastrous results - but you can stop that from happening again!", they screwed it up so badly it just... it would have been much better without. I always saw the SF1 BHG as being a simulation, not actual black holes. That, or "From the eyes of a stupid kid" kinda thing, like how the pokedex is done. |
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| Gilgamesh | Jun 19 2011, 05:48 PM Post #158 |
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Well when you put it like that it's a bit less ridiculous, but for Solo to be descended from the people of Mu that would mean that family knows all about that stuff, so you'd have think it would've showed up in history ages before. I don't recall if SF1 had a history museum, but I know some of the BN games did and they were all realistic. Also fair enough to call "simulator" but Geo doesn't really give me the impression of "stupid kid" at least with stuff to do with space, giving how much of an interest he has in his father's profession. |
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| Kula Diamond | Jun 19 2011, 05:54 PM Post #159 |
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Starforce 1 was good. 2 sucked so hard I stopped playing in the first hour or so. Didn't play 3 so I can't judge it. |
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| Role | Jun 19 2011, 05:58 PM Post #160 |
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It could be that Mu died out, while the others lived on. That's an example of Truth In Television, actually, as there are real live ancient civilizations with no descendants, compared to us whom definitely came from one of them. In fact, given the beliefs of Mu - that you don't need others - it's all the more reasonable that they'd not have found others, basically becoming the Slytherin of sorts of the ancient civilizations (hopefully sans the inbreeding). As such, you have the Strength of One's Self with Mu, vs the Strength of the Bonds with Others of the other three tribes. Still, fairly certain none of them are dinosaurs, though. And given the overall direction of SF1, the sudden shift was like a slap in the face. It probably would have been better if they had mentioned it in passing or had maybe one part of the game that brought your attention to the fact that past cultures had become advanced before a downfall too, then have the threat continue to be properly space born. Then you could have introduced Solo as the "Old way of thinking" vs Subaru as the "New way of thinking" - inward growth vs outward growth, empowering selves vs seeking others... It'd have fit much better than what we got. True, Subaru would an smarter than most his age when it comes to those things, since they're his point of interest. All and all, though, it's probably just bad game design. A clear sign that they just didn't try as hard as they had early/late in BN. |
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