Tokyo City ban on pretty much everything Manga

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Tokyo City ban on pretty much everything Manga; Here comes the shit-storm
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Admiral Miral	Dec 15 2010, 01:15 AM Post #21
The Light of Hope Posts: 3,126 Group: Venus Clan Member #636 Joined: June 15, 2010 Gender: Wafu! Country: #226# True Name: Miral	Quote: an extremely vague law to be directed to ban anything that even slightly ecchi, anything with homosexual undertones or overtones, anything and everything NSFW So nothing worth reading would be affected. Carry on. And all of the NSFW stuff is independently published for stuff like Comiket and sold unofficially, so lol @ stopping ero-doujins.



Gwydd	Dec 15 2010, 01:55 AM Post #22
Eternity Awaits You and Me Posts: 4,820 Group: Sol Clan Member #311 Joined: February 20, 2008 Gender: Manly Country: #226# True Name: Gwydion Marandhir Theme Song: http://goo.gl/OMgsfK	And Comiket is HELD in Tokyo City. You honestly think they'd allow Comiket to continue, with this new law in place? And if not in Tokyo, do you honestly think that Comiket will have the power to survive? This is like a death bell to the Fujoushi.



Peytral	Dec 15 2010, 02:03 AM Post #23
peytral pls Posts: 15,452 Group: Sol Clan Member #459 Joined: March 18, 2009 Gender: Miserable pile of secrets Blog: Ab Animo Pario Country: #0# True Name: Peytral Aznable	Isn't this pretty much like America banning all medias of porn?



Admiral Miral	Dec 15 2010, 02:07 AM Post #24
The Light of Hope Posts: 3,126 Group: Venus Clan Member #636 Joined: June 15, 2010 Gender: Wafu! Country: #226# True Name: Miral	Read the actual bill. It only prevents said material from being sold to minors in retail stores. Ero-doujins are exempt from this bill because they're already regulated; minors can't purchase them. So all it would do to Comiket is not allow children under the age of 18 to enter/buy ero-doujins.



Crash	Dec 15 2010, 02:44 AM Post #25
Wheey! I've became a human being!! I am very handsam! Posts: 14,791 Group: Smartass Teenager Member #48 Joined: November 26, 2005 Gender: MAN Country: #0# True Name: Crash	oh japan. Quote: Even more bizarrely, the final draft actually removed a passage that imposed �a duty not to possess [photographic] child pornography� on Tokyo residents, whilst leaving the section banning erotic manga and anime (and explicitly excluding photographic materials) all but unchanged



Role	Dec 15 2010, 07:52 AM Post #26
Fulminous Witch Posts: 4,363 Group: Clanless Member #567 Joined: January 22, 2010 Gender: Female Blog: Role's Development Blog Country: #226#	I find it disturbing that the liberals in japan consider CP as 'artistic license' when the whole rest of the world is all "WTF is wrong with you?!", even the crazy libs here in the US. This is one thing I can agree with - pixels may not really exist, but the IRL children do. Way to shoot yourself in the foot, japan. If you thought the world would like this, when they see you said that CP is okay, they'll still be pissed at you.



Kula Diamond	Dec 15 2010, 08:36 AM Post #27
atlus tracts Posts: 14,836 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #624 Joined: May 14, 2010 Gender: SNK's slave Country: #238# True Name: Tiltyu Theme Song: https://youtu.be/vqiYrvRq4W8	Adnarel Dec 14 2010, 06:09 PM You thought that Japanese culture was just as progressive and open-minded as ours? Serious question. >Humanity >Progressive >Open-minded lol'd so hard



Blissfulystoopid	Dec 15 2010, 11:38 AM Post #28
Temples' Resident Gaymer Posts: 1,739 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #497 Joined: July 16, 2009 Country: #0#	While Role's points are VERY valid... I must RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG against this on sheer principle due to the intent of it and the attack on homosexuality.



Tange9t	Dec 15 2010, 11:44 AM Post #29
Spooky Posts: 10,908 Group: Venus Clan Member #682 Joined: August 29, 2010 Gender: Female Country: #225# True Name: Tan Theme Song: https://youtu.be/beNfj2tlQ1o	Blissfulystoopid Dec 15 2010, 11:38 AM While Role's points are VERY valid... I must RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG against this on sheer principle due to the intent of it and the attack on homosexuality. The homosexuality attack there pissed me off more than a little too, not gonna lie. It looks like tokyo's gonna start spiralling down now, anyway. This was not a wise move and I don't see how they were idiotic enough to think it a wise move.



Role	Dec 15 2010, 11:59 AM Post #30
Fulminous Witch Posts: 4,363 Group: Clanless Member #567 Joined: January 22, 2010 Gender: Female Blog: Role's Development Blog Country: #226#	Like I said, I hope it gets repealed, but I also hope that the anime industry gets a wake up call because of it.



Kula Diamond	Dec 15 2010, 12:01 PM Post #31
atlus tracts Posts: 14,836 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #624 Joined: May 14, 2010 Gender: SNK's slave Country: #238# True Name: Tiltyu Theme Song: https://youtu.be/vqiYrvRq4W8	The attack on homosexuality is just yet another example of humanity's infinite stupidity and ignorance. Also: Agrees with Role on the fact that the moemoe crap needs to die



Gilgamesh	Dec 15 2010, 12:17 PM Post #32
solbowz Aurarius Posts: 33,599 Group: Venus Clan Member #380 Joined: October 3, 2008 Gender: King of Heroes Blog: Shattered Symbosis Country: #226# True Name: Space Boyd Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h6lFNXzC1g	I would think that child porn would fall under the rest of the law, but then again I guess that passage being removed means it wouldn't do anything to people that already have it. Either way, the fact that they specifically took that out is telling, yeah. Also maybe I'm missing the point here, but I don't see how this would hamper moemoe anime in any way. Unless they're more fanservicey than I thought (I don't watch that stuff).



Role	Dec 15 2010, 12:36 PM Post #33
Fulminous Witch Posts: 4,363 Group: Clanless Member #567 Joined: January 22, 2010 Gender: Female Blog: Role's Development Blog Country: #226#	This bill killed the Ero stuff and glares at the Moe saying "you're next". Remember who it was targeted at - those same Otaku. Not only that, if you take a VERY liberal interpretation of the law, you can extend it to include Moe stuff too.



Adnarel	Dec 15 2010, 12:45 PM Post #34
I'd rather be outside. Posts: 27,340 Group: Crystallux Member #71 Joined: July 2, 2006 Gender: #118# Blog: #118# Country: #118# True Name: #118# Theme Song: #118#	Peytral Dec 15 2010, 02:03 AM Isn't this pretty much like America banning all medias of porn? This hasn't been done. What are you talking about?



Crash	Dec 15 2010, 12:49 PM Post #35
Wheey! I've became a human being!! I am very handsam! Posts: 14,791 Group: Smartass Teenager Member #48 Joined: November 26, 2005 Gender: MAN Country: #0# True Name: Crash	I think he's saying the reaction would be equivalent, or something. But I don't think it's quite the same anyway.



Effex	Dec 15 2010, 12:51 PM Post #36
The King in Tartan Posts: 1,040 Group: Clanless Member #304 Joined: February 6, 2008 Gender: Out-of-Space Country: #226#	Role Dec 14 2010, 07:26 PM This is one of those 'not sure if want' things for me. For one, it may force them to actually do more than moemoe and eroero crap, and make anime for the most part GOOD again. On the other hand, it could kill it too. One thing is for certain - the PM of Japan SLAMMED them for this law, if what I read on sankaku is correct. He is not in favor of it AT ALL. He's reportedly a huge fan of Rozen Maiden, so that's not surprising. Also, I agree on the moe/ero points. Never been a fan of fanservice to begin with.



The Phantom Squee	Dec 15 2010, 01:00 PM Post #37
Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?" Posts: 17,970 Group: Jupiter Clan Member #169 Joined: April 13, 2007 Blog: Tastes Like Homebrew Country: #0# True Name: Squee Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KvMSVnafE	Yog-Sothoth Dec 15 2010, 12:51 PM Role Dec 14 2010, 07:26 PM This is one of those 'not sure if want' things for me. For one, it may force them to actually do more than moemoe and eroero crap, and make anime for the most part GOOD again. On the other hand, it could kill it too. One thing is for certain - the PM of Japan SLAMMED them for this law, if what I read on sankaku is correct. He is not in favor of it AT ALL. He's reportedly a huge fan of Rozen Maiden, so that's not surprising. Also, I agree on the moe/ero points. Never been a fan of fanservice to begin with. You probably just mean erotic fanservice, because fanservice itself is a very broad term and can mean something as simple as throwing in a reference to another popular show or the like.



Effex	Dec 15 2010, 01:04 PM Post #38
The King in Tartan Posts: 1,040 Group: Clanless Member #304 Joined: February 6, 2008 Gender: Out-of-Space Country: #226#	Yes, my bad. Continuity nods and the like I do enjoy, it's just erotic (And "asexual cuddlelust", to use TVTropes' term) I don't like.



Tange9t	Dec 15 2010, 01:09 PM Post #39
Spooky Posts: 10,908 Group: Venus Clan Member #682 Joined: August 29, 2010 Gender: Female Country: #225# True Name: Tan Theme Song: https://youtu.be/beNfj2tlQ1o	You get different types of fanservice. You get stuff like the zelda reference in Fable III where you check one of the graves in a yard of about 200 of the things and it says "It's dangerous to go out alone. Take this." and then lets you dig up a toy sword. I believe the one being referenced there is the "SUDDENLY HALF NAKED CHICKS" type.



Admiral Miral	Dec 15 2010, 01:15 PM Post #40
The Light of Hope Posts: 3,126 Group: Venus Clan Member #636 Joined: June 15, 2010 Gender: Wafu! Country: #226# True Name: Miral	So I wonder when the teenage girls of Japan will rebel when they find out that their precious BL can no longer be sold to them legally.

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