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Haters gonna hate; MASSIVE SPOILERS
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Topic Started: Dec 10 2010, 07:09 PM (865 Views)
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Dec 10 2010, 07:09 PM
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So. I'm going to take this opportunity to gloat, talk about my Dark Dawn experience, and ruminate on possible fandom shout-outs.
Seriously, do not click this if you haven't finished the game.
Spoiler: click to toggle So. Sol and Luna are canon. My joy. It is over nine thousand. OVER NINE THOUSAND. I knew the Luna card was coming as soon as I noticed the Tsupa's were weak to every kind of psynergy, and then it was reinforced by the Luna Tower, and then of course, the eclipse. So by the time the final battle rolled around, it was like "obviously" - it was still extremely epic, though. And imagine my delight when I see a bunch of golden haired beastmen in the post-game. Solian catgirl? Sundancer, when you see this forum - it has come true. Rejoice! Also - I doubt this was intentional, but I remember reading a fanfic, a very good one, about a prince who was trapped in sand-form in the Golden Age and locked away until the present day. The Sand Prince reminded me of this. Similarly, I swear I read a fic once that had Piers in love with this girl named Nowell... I could be misremembering, though. Hindsight bias.  Amiti is going to be the most epic thing ever. Also yeah, my party was Matthew, Karis, Eoleo, and Amiti. I was really tempted to use Sveta, but I would've had no group healer. =( And Karis was a tank. BOWS MOTHER[radio edit]ER Also, this game was really dark after the Luna Tower sequence. I was like "=(" BUT YEAH HOLY SHIT I was crapping myself from the epics throughout the entire last part of the game. Motoi Sakuraba definitely drew a lot from ToS and TotA for the choirs/bells of the soundtrack here... I mean, holy crap. Lil' bit of Baten Kaitos in the battle theme, too. It just occurred to me: they never resolved the parentages of Rief, Tyrell, and Karis. I didn't realize that the game was actually ending until I found out I couldn't save. I was like "... wait what?" Also, is it just me, or was it hinting at Matthew/Sveta at the ending? I mean, WHAT? But, awesome! Now, my personal final boss fight - holy shit intense. I had set my backrow all on standby, thinking I could tap those djinni from the front row. No such luck - so I kept fighting on as normal, blasting with EPA psynergies, when a nasty three-in-a-row psynergy blast wiped out Matt and Eoleo. So I switch up Himi, start blasting with her summons. Thereafter, as soon as someone front row dies who can't be revived, I switch in the back and unload the summons. After a lot of this, though, I only have Eoleo full health (having been revived) - and Tyrell on the back. I switch up Tyrell. He has eight Mars Djinn on standby. Tyrell and Eoleo both fire up the Meteors. Tyrell gets his off. Gets killed afterwards. It's down to Eoleo, with two hundred health left, now. METEOR ALWAYS KILLS YOU. PERIOD.
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AstraSage
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Dec 10 2010, 08:56 PM
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Just got my inner-Kradenette fired-up from reading all the spoilered section... I think I should thank you with either four Mars djinn or 'Barret, Satty...
Spoiler: click to toggle Ironically, my Final Boss finished with only Eoleo sitting in the downed bench...
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Dec 11 2010, 01:39 AM
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"downed bench" lol I just call them dead but w/e
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Shiroi Jigoku
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Dec 11 2010, 03:06 AM
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I'm sorry Satty, but...
Spoiler: click to toggle How is Sol canonized? I don't remember any mention of a Sol clan.
Also, when the "no spoilers" rule is lifted, we should so rename the Luna clan the Umbra clan *nodnod*
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Saturos
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Dec 11 2010, 08:46 AM
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Kuroi:
Spoiler: click to toggle End game, Belinsk. All the beastmen have gold hair and are talking about their "strange new powers," and one of them (bottom right part of the city, I believe), says something along the lines of "We beastmen always thought of ourselves as close to Luna, but I guess we're really closer to Sol!" It's never outright said, just very, very strongly implied. >_>
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LightGreen
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Dec 11 2010, 11:41 AM
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Kuroi: Spoiler: click to toggle End game, Belinsk. All the beastmen have gold hair and are talking about their "strange new powers," and one of them (bottom right part of the city, I believe), says something along the lines of "We beastmen always thought of ourselves as close to Luna, but I guess we're really closer to Sol!" It's never outright said, just very, very strongly implied. >_>
Spoiler: click to toggle It's even stated more by one of the two kids in the north section of town by the docks and Sol tower. He/She says that their new power don't use any boring things like fire or earth only LIGHT.
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Dec 11 2010, 11:42 AM
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Kuroi: Spoiler: click to toggle End game, Belinsk. All the beastmen have gold hair and are talking about their "strange new powers," and one of them (bottom right part of the city, I believe), says something along the lines of "We beastmen always thought of ourselves as close to Luna, but I guess we're really closer to Sol!" It's never outright said, just very, very strongly implied. >_>
Spoiler: click to toggle It's even stated more by one of the two kids in the north section of town by the docks and Sol tower. He/She says that their new power don't use any boring things like fire or earth only LIGHT.
Spoiler: click to toggle What's even creepier is that another kid talks about seeing dead people... Or something. DX
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Dec 11 2010, 11:54 AM
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So, we gonna change "Luna Clan" to "Umbra Clan"?
In six months, of course.
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Kiki
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Dec 11 2010, 01:07 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Aww, we should keep it Luna, it's always been Luna.
But anyway YEAAAAH METEOOOOR. I agree about the bells sounding like ToS. It was great though, it gave the scens a religious, divine tone. Shit was real. And the first thing I thought after seeing the Sol adepts was "ooooh, Satty's gonna like that." XD
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Chrono Ivan
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Dec 11 2010, 01:41 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Also note how Kraden assessed that light and darkness were more powerful than the four normal elements.
Umad, Adna and Were?
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Saturos
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Dec 11 2010, 02:07 PM
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Well, that part I'm probably going to continue to ignore. >_> Because that would just be unfair.
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Dec 11 2010, 02:41 PM
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my final battle i just summon rushed and was disappointed that before i was even done the guy was dead. although i had 1 party memeber left so it was a good thing. He didn't have enough health.
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Dec 12 2010, 12:56 PM
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- Saturos
- Dec 10 2010, 07:09 PM
Spoiler: click to toggle Also yeah, my party was Matthew, Karis, Eoleo, and Amiti.
Spoiler: click to toggle HIGH FIVE, BRO! o/
And yep, finished the game about 10 minutes ago. My god it is an incredible game. Would play again. Many, many times. Final boss was epic beyond words. And the music blew me away at pretty much every turn. My favourite non-battle track in the game has gotta be the theme that played at Apollo Ascent. Absolute brilliance.
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Dec 12 2010, 03:06 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Changing the Luna clan to the Umbra clan makes as much sense as calling the Mars clan the Prox clan. Keep in mind that just because we one one known clan of Luna doesn't mean that we have confirmed that every Luna adept is of the Umbra clan. Better to just say that the Umbra clan is but one subset of the greater Luna clan, much like the Proxians belonging to the Fire Clan of the North are just one subset of Mars Adepts.
Also, WTF, Camelot? Sol and Luna as ELEMENTS? REALLY? My god, how fanficish!
IN other news, we may wind up finding ourselves with real Sol/Luna djinn down the line. Keep your eyes peeled.[/spoilers]
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Saturos
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Dec 12 2010, 03:54 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Fundament, not element, Role. Sol and Luna are fundaments. =P And really, Sol/Luna Sanctums probably tipped people off enough that they started thinking along those lines... and really, just because it's overdone doesn't mean that the canon isn't allowed to use it. >_> But yeah, if you check off fandom cliches, you have a lot of them in this game.  I was disappointed that they chose to make Sol and Luna stronger than the other four elements, though...
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Dec 12 2010, 04:00 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Fundament, not element, Role. Sol and Luna are fundaments. =P And really, Sol/Luna Sanctums probably tipped people off enough that they started thinking along those lines... and really, just because it's overdone doesn't mean that the canon isn't allowed to use it. >_> But yeah, if you check off fandom cliches, you have a lot of them in this game.  I was disappointed that they chose to make Sol and Luna stronger than the other four elements, though...
Spoiler: click to toggle Wait, where did you get that Sol and Luna were stronger then the other elements? The only reason Luna became so strong at Apollo sanctum was the eclipse and they lost that power as soon at the Lens was fired.
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Dec 12 2010, 04:01 PM
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Yay for power /o/
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Saturos
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Dec 12 2010, 04:03 PM
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Kraden says so in that town by Warrior Hill, when they first start talking about Sol and Luna as fundaments, and he remarks that since they were more powerful, they were more difficult than the four elements to control. It also talks about the ancient Jenie attempting to become godlike, and etc.
Also! We finally learn that the Wise One is a creation of the Jenie. They must have been crazy powerful indeed.
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Dec 12 2010, 07:39 PM
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Maybe the lesson here is that the writers are not as creative as we would like to imagine they are.
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Dec 12 2010, 07:42 PM
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lol camelt is lazy n jus red ppls fanfigs
its kinda funy
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