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A quick theory (ENDGAME SPOILERS); Mercury Lighthouse, and the Lemurians.
Topic Started: Dec 10 2010, 09:41 AM (696 Views)
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Okay, I'm tired right now and on my ipod and I'm sorry if this is illegible and filled with typoes, so I'm going to avoid saying too much now and add some more later. Also, sorry if old, since I haven't searched yet.

Anyway, there are two things- Alex is a Lemurian, and, therefore, Mia's Mercury Clan is also so. At Tonfon, the leader mentions being told to meet the heroes by a Lemurian. Reasons for why this is Alex, are-

1. The leader specifically says he met up with Alex. That's the main one. Some people (not mentioning names, Role ^_^) seem to think that Piers also told him, but these are argued by-

2. Piers is busy being flirted with Nowell. And that Kraden didn't seem to plan on going to Tonfon anyway, why would he send one of his magical pigeons to tell piers? And, on tbat nte, why couldn't he say he wanted to meet him, being Kraden and all? There's no evidence that Piers new what was going on.

3. Piers seemed to have to not want to be known as Lemurian, as can be seen in Port Rago. A weak point i know, since he'll probaby treat royalty different, but it exists.

Anyway, implications-

If Alex is Lemurian, Mia and er clan must be. Or he's lying about being Lemurian, but that's unlikely. This is supported in gs1 when Mia says her Clan has guarded the Lighthouse for generations. We can then imply that Lemuria had a need to want the Lighthouses sealed?

Anyway, agree/disagree/discuss.
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Wheey! I've became a human being!! I am very handsam!

I don't even remember Lemuria being mentioned much at all and I don't recall these super-specific plot details, like I don't even know what you're referring to with point 3 about Port Rago, but I still think you're wrong and that it was Piers. Yeah.

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Uh, in Tonfan... everyone was saying "Captain Piers" when talking about the Lemurian...
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Dont worry i believe in your theery bro /inspiration
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You're not afraid of the dark, are you?

A ton of people in Tonfon talk about Captain Piers and his amazing boat, and a ship full of Lemurians and their amazing boat. It's possible that they mistook Alex for a Lemurian since he's a Mercury Adept with blue hair, and Piers and the Lemurians they saw before are all the same.
I prefer to think it was Piers who told the emperor about you. He also told Briggs that your party might somehow be able to help his son. I don't see why he would hide the fact that he's Lemurian. His boat is distinctive enough as it is.
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Actually, yeah, it probably was Piers. Why would Alex want to stop the eclipse when he helped start it?
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3. Piers seemed to have to not want to be known as Lemurian, as can be seen in Port Rago. A weak point i know, since he'll probaby treat royalty different, but it exists.
...I don't remember this at all. I've no idea how you got this idea.

From what I can understand about Alex/Piers/Tonfon, Piers was in Tonfon first, before you visit the first time. He upgraded their ships, and told Unan to expect your arrival. I've no idea how he knew that Matthew and co. were going there though. (And apparently he also told Unan to close down the port so news of the former Emperor's death wouldn't spread, but I think that must have happened a while before or something.)

Then, sometime while you were off rescuing Ryu Kou and Hou Ju, Alex visited Unan and gave him the Red Orb to give to you.

But not once did anyone indicate that they thought Alex was Lemurian. There was a man who mistook one of your party members for Alex, and a woman who obviously wanted to have his babies, but no one suggested they thought Alex was Lemurian.
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In my defence I made this topic at about 2am. And it was shot down in GameFAQs because he actually said... which I only remember from Rago. ^_^

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Actually, yeah, it probably was Piers. Why would Alex want to stop the eclipse when he helped start it?
He still did, though >_>
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Dec 10 2010, 11:49 PM
Actually, yeah, it probably was Piers. Why would Alex want to stop the eclipse when he helped start it?
You haven't beat the game, have you...?
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Nice spoiler tags, guys. >.>

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Wheey! I've became a human being!! I am very handsam!

Um, since when do we need spoiler tags, when the topic title clearly says it's all spoilers?
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I dunno, I'm new to the forum. :awe:
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...Spoiler'd because our spoiler policy is too confusing to bother with. XD

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You're a little confused there, Venus. Piers gave Briggs the water, but Alex gave Unan the red orb. Also, Unan had closed the port previously so that news of Ko's death wouldn't get out, I believe.

Also, with regards to your theory: occam's razor, man. >_> You're making it far too elaborate, with a bit of a longshot in the first place. I think Piers is just helping where he can as he sails around with Reif's sister. :eyebrow:


But yeah, this topic is marked endgame spoilers, so I think we're okay. xD
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Well, that's true enough. Kraden didn't say anything about it though... But then, he skipped over a lot of things....

But I think that Piers told Unan you were coming before he picked up Kraden and Nowell to drop Kraden off in Belinsk. Kraden seemed worried about wherever they were headed, so I don't think they were just sailing around together... Now that I think about it, I think Piers may have picked up Takeru in Yamata as well. Susa mentioned seeing him, and one of the NPCs remarked that Takeru left on a "huge, neat-looking ship"... And if that's the case, then Piers would've known about Himi's prophecy about Isaac, which might explain where they were headed and why Kraden was so worried... Maybe it's part of the plot in the next game.
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Thanks Poui.

I think in the next game we'll have Matthew, Karis, and Tyrell, but other than that we'll have a vastly different party. Nowell instead of Rief, Takeru instead of Himi, though the endgame makes me think Sveta will make a return performance.

EDIT: I mean, aside from how everything in Belinsk turns SUPER AMAZINGLY CREEPY at the end. I mean, way to go massive 'JOIN US! JOIN US! WE WANT YOU!' at the end, especially with how you talk to everyone in the band and they make the super-flimsy excuse 'everyone was away when the Eclipse happened, so we all magically survived! It's a miracle!' I mean REALLY. I bet something's fishy up in Belinsk(again).

Poor Sveta D: Can't catch a break. (though the everyone-revived thing might be some weird connection to the people through Volechek who got blasted with a nifty disturbing high amount of pure light and also we established you can transfer vitality to people and that beastmen have some goddamn strange freaking powers related to that already)
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