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ITT: Me, Raven and Airi all play GS:DD.
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Eh? What enemies are you talking about? I don't recall any enemies in the Apollo Lens area...
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Dec 15 2010, 12:33 PM
Eh? What enemies are you talking about? I don't recall any enemies in the Apollo Lens area...
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Wait, the ones way back in the caves? Isn't that a single fight only, or am I missing something?
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Dec 15 2010, 12:37 PM
Wait, the ones way back in the caves? Isn't that a single fight only, or am I missing something?
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Do you have to tell Kraden you're not ready for the final battle or something?
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Yeah, I found it. Thanks, I never knew there were fights there. And MY GOD, talk about a game breaker. Not even post game foes give you that much, this is ridiculous. Nice to know for my inepts run, though - those Waters of Life will be a godsend.

Anywho, it's also giving me some time to play around with Sveta a bit more. I'm not going up against any bosses, so I don't need Karis at the moment, so I'm playing around with her a bit. Still, though... Found a NIIIIICE combo, by unequipping the Zol Ring from my Godspeed Ronin.


Rief → Spark Plasma, Center Soldier
Tyrell → Geode, Left Soldier
Matt → Vortex, Right Soldier
Sveta → Pewter, Center Soldier

I get >50K experience. HOLY. FUWIGG'N. CRAP. To be exact: 53,508 experience and 2028 coins, PLUS the guaranteed WoL.

Also, finally figured out why Rief never, EVER, got hit with status ailments. Somehow, I got his Luck up to 44! And I've not even used any of the stat raising items! Combo of the Iris Robe, the djinn he has, and his Pure Mage class have given him just a GODLIKE amount of Luck, I've not even gotten MIA that high. Dang.

Anywho, I'm gonna get everyone to 99 and then give them a better assessment. I've not gone for perfect levels this game (not like you can, with all those XP gains!), so it should reflect natural levels much more. Once I do that and get everyone top tier gear, I'll give my final views on everyone.

Finding out that Sveta has THREE tiers of her beastform class made me look way more into her - ~380% multiplier for attack is nothing to shake a stick at! That's pretty much as game breaking as the Critical Sol Setup.
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Yep, the fact they're weak to every element makes them extremely easy to spam Djinn attacks against. Got every character from Lv64-66 (front row) and 54-55 (back row) to Lv99 in about 3 hours. >_> And I had a good 150+ Water of Life surplus...
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Well, they're not actually WEAK to every element, but they just have equal resistance to each one, so it's treated as such.

Honest, IMO, it should be:

If all elements are equal and <80 resist, they should be considered weak by the game (!!!)
If all elements are equal and between 80 and 140 resist, they should be considered neutral by the game (!)
If all elements are equal and >140 resist, they should be considered strong by the game (.)

Sadly, the way it's programmed, since all of them are the 'lowest resistance', it's 'weak' to all of them, even if it's really a misnomer...

Ah well, you are right, though. The fact that it treats it this way just makes it WAY too easy.
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Yeah, no kidding. Oh well, at least it's less of a chore getting to Lv99.

And now, I start my 2nd playthrough! :3 Gonna use this as a memory test, see if I can remember where all 72 Djinn are from my first playthrough. Gonna try to complete the Encyclopedia - I missed ONE entry in my last playthrough. ONE!! And it seems to be a permanently missable one - anyone know if I can still access the entry for "Eastern Sea"? Obviously I'm past all the PoNRs.
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Also, is it just me, or is it WAY easier to get Djinn Kills, too? It used to be that on top of using the djinn of the enemy's weakness, you also had to have a certain amount of power over the enemy's resistance. Yet I have never, ever, EVER, NOT gotten a djinn kill, while in TBS when farming for perfect levels in the Mercury Lighthouse pre-Satty, there was no guarantee that I'd djinn kill a Siren unless I used base classes with Garet.
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I dunno, Tua Warriors and Great Dragons are the only things I've been Djinn killing. They did always work though. But then so did all of the Djinn kills I did in GS1 and TLA. Except Mad Demons.
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I've done a lot more, mainly to see who drops what. Thing is, it's been hard NOT to djinn kill something unless I use the wrong element, even if there's only one djinn of the needed element. O.o
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Odyssey, ya see~ Odyssey, ya see~

Sveta sighting!

Yup, only just started getting more steam on the game today. Gotta entertain myself SOMEHOW on holiday. :awe:
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So, here I am, swapping out Karis for Sveta in a test run for the final boss...

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Either the RNG is doing everything in its power to make this difficult, or I was right when i didn't like Sveta.

My Buff 'n' Rush strategy works fine with my team with Karis. No problems, goes off without a hitch.

Then my Sveta test begins. And those insta-kill attacks start working ALOT. And, go figure, when it comes time to unleash the beast within, SHE GETS DJINN BLAST'D. The fight was long and surprisingly difficult for a team of all level 99s with ideal gear.

So, I'm gonna give her another shot. It could very well be the RNG spiting me. But if I get a good run, I figure I'll see why people like Sveta so much. So far, though, the game is going out of its way to make me not impressed...
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Obviously the enemies know Beast Sveta is broke and make her the priority target.

*runs*
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Be careful what you say. Matt with one high impact was doing ~1500 damage to the final dood, while a Fully impacted Sveta beast mode was doing 400. Granted, yes, she did JUST get djinn storm'd, but I found that as a point of worry about just how good these stats are without the multipliers you get out of unleashes.

I'll do it again real quick, but if she cannot keep up with Matt, I may find myself preferring my old party.
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Guysguysguys

I haven't got Amiti in my 2nd playthrough yet

So...

Amiti solo run is go y/n?
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THAT SETTLES IT.

Sveta, in optimal conditions, with 1999 (MAX!!!) attack, deals ~800 damage to the Final Dood.
Matt, in that same turn, AFTER BEING DJINN BLAST'D, deals 1042.

Yeeeeah...

I don't see why you like Sveta so much. The fact that you have to set her up is just killing her for me. And even then, she can't keep up. My main team would have won already...
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The game isn't even hard so lolteamoptimization.
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