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| Deleted User | Dec 15 2010, 12:44 PM Post #41 |
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Ah. No, I never use summons. At least, not when the risk factor is that high. I just figured he'd have Djinn Stun like Valukar, but I guess I was wrong. I think you're right there. He always used Djinn Storm pretty much right after I recover. EVERY TIME. Throw Charons, Fulminous Edges and Dark Contacts into the mix, plus his natural 200 HP regen every turn...... |
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| GSAlex | Dec 15 2010, 02:38 PM Post #42 |
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Finished all of the bosses. In terms of difficulty for me... Dullahan>Ancient Demon>Star Magician>Trolls. I beat the Star Magician before finishing the game, which would have put me around level 39. Got enough experience for everyone but Himi to level twice. I prioritized the refresh balls over all other balls, then the death balls. I only pursued guard balls when those first two had been destroyed, then I dealt the other various balls damage through psynergy, targeting the Star Magician. She wasn't that hard. Ancient Demon was next. He om nommed Karis, and she was a huge jerk as well as my heals. What I did was put all of my B-Team's djinni on Standby, then have Beastform Sveta OHKO Karis. I'd swap her out for someone to do a huge summon, then swap her back in for that person using Doldrum and such to pin him down that turn. Trolls were a joke. I fought them at three in the morning, half asleep. I can't remember the third troll at all. Dullahan was bananas. Aurora is broken. And he only stormed Himi, Karis and Sveta. He completely forgot Matthew. Not as terrible as my first encounter with Dullahan, but no walk in the park either. |
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| Effex | Dec 15 2010, 02:52 PM Post #43 |
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DULLAHAN IS DICKS Jesus christ I wanted to at least -try- without grinding the hell up but no it's impossible. As far as I'm concerned he's impossible to kill at level 50. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 15 2010, 02:55 PM Post #44 |
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I ended up killing him at... Lv64-66 for the front row, Lv54-55 for the back row. He was a lot less tough than the first time I tried because he didn't Djinn Storm first turn. I tried to lay on the punishment as much as I could, while keeping the party prepped for battle. In the end, he only Djinn Storm'd 3 times, and 2 of those were largely avoided by my main fighters.
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| Hinoa | Dec 15 2010, 02:58 PM Post #45 |
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So apparently then I am the luckiest mother[radio edit]er ever, since I took him down in one try with a TLA strategy. I mean, I remembered he had Crucible when he used Megaera on me, but that was the last time he was able to do that, since once I got to that point, I used low-level summons against him. I didn't even expect to win against him either, which is what makes it all the more funny... |
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| Kentington | Dec 15 2010, 08:34 PM Post #46 |
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Beat Dully at level 46 on the second try. At least for me, he always used Djinn Storm as the first action of his first turn, so I performed a partial summon rush - had Karis use Doldrum to prevent him from DS'ing while the rest of the party used up all their set Djinn to summon in the first turn (thus preventing Crucible from biting me in the ass). He won't use Djinn Storm for a while after the first turn, even if you cancel it with Doldrum, which buys me time to swap in my B-team and get a few summons off with them. |
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| Super Slash | Dec 15 2010, 08:59 PM Post #47 |
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UGH, Dullahan is hard. This is kinda fun though; the game needed a good challenge. We all know it lacks it. There is a way to avoid Djinn Storm, but it's entirely dependant on luck and can take many resets. Basically, his attack pattern is like this, according to someone on GameFAQs (I'll split the list by threes since he takes three actions per turn): Dark Contact Attack Fulminous Edge Break Attack Dark Contact Element Swap Haunt Curse Fulminous Edge Bind Crucibile Attack Dark Contact Fulminous Edge Attack Element Swap Attack Condemn Charon Curse Djinn Storm Haunt Fulminous Edge Dark Contact Attack Fulminous Edge And then it repeats. However, this attack pattern was not exact for me, so I'm not sure if I'm just doing something wrong or if it's inaccurate. For the most part, it is correct though. You have to avoid buffing yourself to avoid Break, and avoid having any Djinn on standby to avoid Crucible. Use this to your advantage so that he'll use Condemn -> Charon -> Curse in a single turn. It *has* to be done this way. Which attack he starts with in the pattern is completely random, hence the possible requirement of many soft resets. Once he uses those three attacks in his turn, use Ivy or Doldrum. Both of these Djinn should be on seperate characters, just to be safe. This will prevent him from using Djinn Storm. This shouldn't mess up the pattern, so you should be able to keep doing it. The only thing you'll have to watch out for is Charon, which can screw you over due to the instant death effect. However, the pattern did seem to mess up for me, because he ended up doing Attack -> Condemn -> Charon the second time around. I'm not sure why, and I'm still trying to beat him. |
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| Saturos | Dec 15 2010, 09:50 PM Post #48 |
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Yeah, I doubt that's accurate. I know I got Djinn Storm and then Charon once, and more than once a Fulminous Edge after. |
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| Super Slash | Dec 15 2010, 10:26 PM Post #49 |
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It's actually fairly accurate for me. It's the top part of the list that seems pretty messed up. He definitely follows a pattern though, and he's always used Djinn Storm on me after the three attacks I listed. So tempted to just summon rush him and get this over with. |
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| Effex | Dec 17 2010, 12:04 AM Post #50 |
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WHOSE THE BEST WHO IS I AM YES I AM OH YEAAAAAH Killed Dullahan at level 51 (At the -highest-) without summon rushing in the base classes. Kite + Lull = Yesssss Not only that, but I only lost four dudes spread over two teams. (Two on each!) |
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| Deadbeard | Dec 20 2010, 04:28 PM Post #51 |
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God, how did I beat Dully the first time round? I must be better at videogames than I was at that age, but I'm just not as determined and just too angry. When he djinni storms or instant deaths me on the first turn, I just lose the will to live >_> Seriously, instant death moves need to go die in a fire. Fulminous Edge can too, since it's a OHKO on basically everyone in my party after getting d stormed. So, let's run through this. You can't use a build-up-to-summon strategy, because of crucible. You can't buff up because of break. You can't recover off damage because there are so many moves that are insta-death, and d storm means you lose access to revive and wish anyway. Bring back Deadbeard, who was challenging without having any complete hax moves. Seriously, a ghost ship and Crossbone isle and no Deadbeard? At least we got to "talk" to him this time... |
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| Deleted User | Dec 20 2010, 04:43 PM Post #52 |
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I support this idea. Buff him to reach the levels of the kind of strength your party would have at that point in the next game, and make him difficult by legitimate means, not by hax. Also he should be shown getting his revenge on Dullahan and Star Magician for stealing his ship and island.
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| LightGreen | Dec 20 2010, 05:04 PM Post #53 |
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Deadbeard would beat all of them up, no one steals his ship and island. |
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Dec 20 2010, 10:01 PM Post #54 |
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Dullahan is the only one I had to summon rush.....seriously, I barely used any summons in this game.....ever..... On my second play through, beat Star Magician just now at level 34....erm....well everyone is level 38 now o_O I'm getting the feeling he's yielding too much exp Oh wait, the back party only went up two levels >_> wait, what? |
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| Super Slash | Dec 20 2010, 11:38 PM Post #55 |
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I beat him by summon rushing. I probably could have done it normally if I kept trying, but I just said screw it and took the easy way out. And still barely won. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 10:01 AM Post #56 |
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lolsummonrushing You kids these days and your crazy-ass summons that deal damage proportional to the enemy's HP. I beat Dullahan the normal way and I enjoyed it. Also, KB, backrow party members get half experience, which is why they only levelled twice whereas your front row levelled 4 times. |
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| Kula Diamond | Dec 21 2010, 10:15 AM Post #57 |
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That reminds me i still needs to beat Dully but i'm too lazy to go all the way to the Tua Soldiers and i still need to get a Tisiphone. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 10:23 AM Post #58 |
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Hmm, I should fight Dullahan at a lower level next time. I'm beginning to consider just dropping the duo-run thing and just doing a normal playthrough from here on. (“・ω・)つ |
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| Effex | Dec 21 2010, 03:59 PM Post #59 |
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I've proven you can do it by powering through with sheer awesome - without summon rushing, or class optimizing. Or grinding! |
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| Deadbeard | Dec 21 2010, 06:26 PM Post #60 |
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Alright, I beat him. No summon rushing, but plenty of summon spamming (dunno how much that is frowned upon). Standard parties, first was set up to summon Flora every turn by divvying up the Jupiter djinn, second had lull and chasm abuse and aimed to summon eclipse. Imperative to both of these was getting everyone faster than dully, done through vine, fleet, torrent, and moloch. Finally, I had to abuse all those waters of life I got from Tua soldiers. Didn't like doing that; I hate having to use items, it feels like cheating. |
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