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Role's bout of Inept-itude.; Role records an Inepts run for Dark Dawn!
Topic Started: Dec 4 2010, 07:50 AM (2,250 Views)
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Fulminous Witch
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Sup! Now, I know y'all love your psynergy and all, and your djinns and summons and artifacty weapons. You guys are crazy, though. You and your fancy smancy gizmos - bah! Who needs that! Real men - er, women - fight with none of that fancy stuff! So let me get the rundown for you!

--No psynergy allowed outside of puzzle solving. Not even to heal out of battle - only items may be used to heal.
--No artifact equipment allowed. All non-plot central artifacts must be sold immediately. Logically, this also means that I cannot use Sveta after a certain part of the story. The Sol Blade can only be used for its key feature, and cannot be equipped.
--ALL NON-FORCED DJINN MUST BE SKIPPED. All djinn must be on standby at all times as well. This is so that when Djinn Storm'd/Blast'd, there is a minimal gain in stats.
--Summons cannot be gotten. Summon tablets must be ignored.

So, you got it? Common gear only, no psynergy, minimal grinding, final destination.



The good ol' Inepts challenge, where your characters aren't adepts at all! Of course, the reason behind the 'no artifacts' rule should be blatantly obvious - if I don't do that, it's just a normal playthrough!

Anywho, I'll chronicle the journey here.




So I've started the quest. First thing I noticed is that without whirlwinding the enemy for insta-win fights, Karis takes a LOT of damage. Keeping herbs on hand will be needed to be kept in mind.

Got to the part where I get djinn. Isaac really, REALLY wants me to summon. I don't care. So I keep on going. I only set a mars in order to cast fireball on the thingies, and then immediately switch back. Problems came with the boss. Of course, I had to have one set, I couldn't just have Garet do it (boo!). Chose the useless revival djinni. When the battle started, wasted his turn, then started spamming attacks, with one or two herbs here and there.

Then Garet decided to be a dick.

Garet SUMMONS METEOR. FUUUUUUUU--- Using the djinn on Matt means he's gonna have them set on him - I can't use him in battle if that happens, so Matt's forced to defend, essentially be considered KO as far as I'm concerned. But no, Garet wasn't done there - he started to SPAM DJINN. Then followed with Tiamat.

Karis got the last word at least - a whopping 14 damage did it in. She leveled twice, and Matt once.

Still though, [radio edit]ING GARET. UGGH. You're as stupid as your son, I swear!

So, with that done, I kidnap his son (Hey, I'm doing him a favor!) and decide to go murder some bird thing because I can. Unfortunately, that's a bit of a journey, so I stop by and get some supplies. That Psy Crystal is useless to me, but sells for QUITE the pretty penny. Karis gets a bow, and longswords for the boys. Get them shields too, then stock up on items. Ten herbs for each, and five antidotes for each. Find some elixirs and give them to Karis.

So, there's this adventure park going on, right? So I head in there and find out that it's all a joke - the whole adventure is just beating up on some child's crudely drawn dragon on some machine. It was on its last legs, too, huh? I mean, I only used like one herb before it just broke down. Pathetic. I heard that since they found out that even someone who doesn't know psynergy kicked that thing's ass, they've made a stronger one.

So, here's my new delimma - should I go beat the crap out of the dragon just to mock them, or should I say it's not worth my time?
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Hinoa
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You're going to want all of the levels. All of them.

Er, I mean, yeah, you should go back and grind the shit out of the Dim Dragon, because beating on crudely constructed ex-final bosses is always fun!
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This is so insane and suicidal it's awesome! I think I'll try this one day. Good luck!
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I anticipate a lot of pain in your future.

That said, epic lulz
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Crash
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Wheey! I've became a human being!! I am very handsam!

Hmm, I would have approached this with only one difference--artifacts are allowed, as long as no psynergy has to be used to get to them. But that's neither here nor there so carry on.

Even in my regular play I sold that psy crystal, it's easy enough to full heal PP that early by walking around, and the money it gives is too sweet to pass up.
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If artifact equipment is allowed, it's just a normal run of Golden Sun due to how freaking broken unleashes are. Thus why they're not allowed. Artifact consumables ARE allowed, though.

Anywho, those foolish adepts thought their new dragon could stop me? Please! Apparently, the only thing different was that the child ONLY HAD RED CRAYONS LEFT. Easy as hell, right? They begged me to keep quiet about this and gave me a Water of Life for hush money (riiight, like I'm gonna keep quiet about that! I'll take the item anyways, though. :awe:). So yeah, one of the rare as sin revival items get! Let's just hope I never have to use it, though.

Anywho, we were chilling along when we came across some camp. Crazy place - children seem to fly around with spinny flowers just for kicks. God, Adepts are weird people. We picked up some axes and better defensive gear, and found some prime pepper! Sadly, Karis is allergic, so we sold it at the store. Good lord, you should have heard Tyrel whine. Apparently he likes his food hot. Go figure.

After passing the camp, suddenly some flaming little prick of a monster decided to try and come with us. It was stupid looking, so we told it to get lost. Two steps later, it said "SCREW YOU, I'M COMING WITH YOU!" We fought hard to get away from the freak, and it even got mad at us and tried to kill us with fire. Pretty weak fire, though Karis went through way more herbs than we wanted to soothe the burns. Luckly he gave up, but not before Matthew went ape shit on a bat. He killed it so hard he took a level in GAR. Dang, talk about frustration.

So here we are, at this gate where they want us to prove we're an adept to cross. Something about having a proper psynergy license or something. So we simply provided the license we, er, 'procured', and went on our way. Man, adepts are stupid. They don't even require photo IDs, just a name is good enough. Hell, I bet if we tried to forge it without even knowing what it'd look like, it'd have worked. Ah well. Anywho we're crossing over into this place when nightfall comes. We decide to call it a night, but we'll get right back to moving in the morning.
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Oh my GOD, that was tough.

So here I am going through some crazy cave place, when all of a sudden, out of nowhere, this godlike bearded man sends his leet attack squad after me. Geez, if the zombies weren't enough, now these guys hurt like hell! I threw a seed and a claw at them for starters, the the struggle of keeping people healthy began. We FINALLY took one down and began working on another, putting the other guy to sleep with a sleep bomb as we did so. Once the one guy was left, we were able to take him out... somehow.

The godly bearded man sparta-kicked some blue haired glasses kid into a pit afterwards, and somehow, some way, the kid fell into a box with was transported to the end of the cave. Needless to say, he did NOT like being sparta-kicked, so he joined up with us.

This is where the inepts run really starts to show it's true colors - starting with the zombies forcing me to go back and get a LOT more herbs (DAMMIT, GO AWAY YOU STUPID DJINNI!), then after a couple of actual resets on the three goons with psy grenades, I finally managed to beat them, and everyone went up to level 10. But DANG, that was one hell of a wakeup boss.
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Thanks Poui.

...Man, I kept some Khiren water and healing items because I was afriad the bosses would tend to have ways to neutralize your psynergy throughout the whole game, especially Blados and Chalis... Nope :U.
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Hinoa
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Well they do, just not nearly on the level of these [radio edit]ers. And besides, that's well past the point where you should be Djinnspamming anyway.

But yeah, this was a wake-up call boss for me, too, and I wasn't even playing The Inepts.
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Almost the entire game so far is easy(I'm talking about a normal play through, haven't beat the game... yet)...

Maybe I'm just over-leveled. I might try an inept play through when I am done though
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Okay, so with that done, we headed over towards this Passaj place. Nice place, stupid name. I mean, with a name like that, you'd think it'd be a passage to somewhere, right? They couldn't get their furnace working, and were looking for, get this, adepts to fix it. Figures, right? We pushed some funny rocks and threw an oil drop at the damned thing and voila, it's working again. To thank us, they sent us to get some mask to use as a decoration or something. Great, we fix your shit and now we're errand boys. Well, we figure since we're probably gonna loot the place later anyways, might as well go look a the other places around here and make sure they won't hunt us down.

So we reach this Sanan place. They wanted adepts. They've got us, but it wasn't good enough. However, a quick crystal-powder-to-the-face somehow convinced them that we WERE. So we met the king guy, he was okay, though... I dunno, keeping an entourage of succubi? No idea how he does it, but apparently he's managed to get it so that nobody else thinks the guy's a pervert. He sends us to fix a well. No, I'm serious.

We get to some Ayuthay place and, wouldn't you know it, it was ALREADY FIXED. Talking to a general, seems that they actually needed to UNfix it, it's just the king tends to leave stuff out. Figures. So we go in and infiltrate. Apparently, they somehow think we're destined to restore life to the land. To the DESERT land. Why? Because apparently we found their hiding spot. God, what is it people in this region? Their prince decides to tag along a bit and we head down to figure this place out. Apparently, some Gem decided it was going to live, and became a... Sand Prince. No, I'm not making this up. We threw water on the guy (hey, there's plenty of it here, why not?) and poof, the guy just crumbles. Just like that. And he made himself try to sound all epic, too.

Well, apparently the prince wants us to temporarily unfix this well thingy. Why? Well, there be ancient treasure down in the ruins of it, something called an Insight Glass. Well, we found it alright. You should have seen his face, too. Apparently, the ancients found that the common every day MAGNIFYING GLASS was this really awesome thing and kept it as their treasure. Well, we fixed up the well, and to hide his shame the prince guy decided he'd leave the place. Hey, if I bought into all these legends only to find out that everything grand and epic that the ancients had was in actuality lame and mediocre at best, I'd wanna get out of there too.

Well, coming out with the prince of the guys they didn't like tended to piss off the generals from earlier. Whoo, boy, what do these guys EAT? Damn, they were strong, we only barely made it out of there. Hell, for all this "Adept this, Adept that" talk, they sure don't seem to NEED them - just goes to show you, you can be pretty damn powerful without any fancy smancy powers - it took FIVE of us to take down TWO of them. Why would you even WANT powers when you're that strong? Meh, who knows.

Anywho, we went back, showed that we had "converted" their prince onto our side, and the ol king was delighted. He gave us the mask, but asked why we wanted it. When we told him it was for someone to decorate their forge with, his only comment was "what a waste..."

Tell me about it.

Hell, even then, they weren't satisfied. We told them the crap we'd gone through, but nooo, after hearing about the sandy prince guy, they told us that they had their own problems with some frosty queen.

Yeah...

That frosty queen nearly KILLED us, though. Good LORD, that lady was strong. Poor Karis was frozen solid for a while after that, it took like three oil drops to thaw her out...




So yeah, inepts run is back on. Sand Prince wasn't hard. The two generals, though... man, their AoEs REALLY drain the life out of you. Had to use a water of life.

But still, MY GOD THE ICE QUEEN. Game over'd several times against her. I was like level 26 before I even managed to not have all my guys one-shotted by her Ice Missile, too (and even then, it STILL one-shots Karis). What I wound up doing was going with a team of Karis, Matt, Amiti, and Rief. Problem with Tyrell? Speed. I tried having him instead of Karis, but then only Matt was fast enough to go before her - and that just turned things into a losing battle.

So having Karis set to healing duty, spreading out the few waters of life I had, playing it safe with healing is what saved me in the end. But dang, even frostbite took out Karis in one blow... Had to grin though when Frost Kiss did it too. Even with her frailty, though, her speed saved my ass here. Nothing like having two people able to heal last turn's damage.
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Oh man, Rief would SUCK without psynergy. But I think I'll try this on my next playthrough, just with Djinn instead if I get bored/cranky.

Definitely looks like you're having fun. Think you'd do it like this in TLA/TBS?
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This actually looks pretty damn challenging. I just started a no-Djinn run, and took several tries to make it past the Stealthy Scouts without losing anyone. Good lord was that difficult.
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<_< Maybe it was just me, but I died against the Stealthy Scouts for no good reason my first play-through, then I used an oil drop first turn of my second try and KO'd all three. I just mimicked their strategy for maximum damage.
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Rief regularly outdamages Karis. Until I get Eoleo, Rief is probably a regular unless I need the speed, which if the Ice Queen is anything to base this on, will be often. It's actually Tyrell who's showing to be too useless - that low speed means even mooks go before him, and it's really starting to cause problems at this point. When I should be taking everything out in two to three turns, these things keep getting in quick shots before I can finish them off, essentially screwing me money wise. Herbs may be cheap, but the SHEER NUMBER I go through... geez...


Also note: Because Sveta only has artifact weapons, AND because she's forced into plot artifacts at the end of the game, she's not allowed to fight. She's an adept/beastlady who was captured and provides "entertainment" for the rest of the party at night. Will be used as a meat shield to block the light later on, but until then... well... she's certainly in no condition to fight.

Needless to say, if the only one left is Sveta, it counts as a Game Over for this game.



Here's the roles for each character so far:

Karis: Field Medic (prioritizes healing)
Matt: Scout (acts as secondary medic if needed, otherwise attacks)
Amiti: Light Infantry (no surprise there...)
Rief: Light Infantry (yes, he's an ATTACKER)
Tyrell: Heavy Infantry (but proving more and more useless as time goes on...)
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Giraffes are adorable.

You could de-equip Sveta until the plot demands she has artifact weapons. You surely didn't forget that the playable characters can fight barehanded, did you? I didn't feel like reading everything but if you are going to use items such as waters of life, etc. she can be the item user.
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I can't imagine a bare-fisted Sveta would come close to anyone else's damage if they're still using weapons <__< I'm pretty sure she DOES have one or two items from shops available though, but I could be wrong and don't feel like checking the guy in Tonfon.
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I can't imagine a bear-fisted Sveta would come close to anyone else's damage if they're still using weapons <__<
Actually, I imagine a bear-fisted Sveta might do quite a bit of damage. Bare-fisted, on the other hand...

Sorry, couldn't resist :awesomeface:
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*unleashes her bear-fists on Raven*
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Matthew: Yah got any bear claws?

Sveta: Nah, we're all outta bear claws!
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