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| Jarnakel Magnus | Dec 4 2010, 09:25 AM Post #61 |
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Nothing to siege here, move along.
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I know I'm a few pages late, still feel obliged to respond.
Well, the way she said it implied, to me, that she felt isolated at the Temple, possibly because no one was taking the time to talk to her or anything. However, I admit I may have spoken in haste, and for that, I apologize.
Oh boy. Here we go. For starters, I just went back and re-read the thread, and the only thread that could be considered preaching on those two pages was one Gwydd made on page 4, and even then, it was still mostly in the spirit of the thread. Looking back, the point the thread started falling apart was when the Fate/Reapist card was played, which I understandably took offense to. Of course you don't think the first post of the thread could be taken seriously at all, it wasn't meant to be. But apparently some people thought it was. But no, we didn't start preaching. Unless somehow saying that we thank whoever modded the thread for helping us infiltrate PG is somehow preaching. As for the "SRS" "point" you make, I beg to differ... The only thing I can think of where you all thought I was getting upset over something inconsequential was with the whole username deal, which is not. It's a respect thing, and as was seen, I wasn't the only one who thought as much. As well, many of the really heated debates have not involved me at all. The whole chatroom debate comes to mind, where people got pissy because the java chat was suddenly a few pixels lower on the screen. I was not part of that. I was not one of the ones who made a big deal over nothing, and, in fact, I stated my opinion that the whole thing was ridiculous. As well, as previously stated, I did not go all RAWR over something inconsequential in the thread. Unless the Fate/Reapist card is somehow completely inconsequential? You say I have a history, and yet you refuse to give examples, while also ignoring the many recent occurrences which did not involve me at all. As for Sacra, Bliss and others made my point better than I did. The constant quoting of that one post, without adding anything new, and without letting anyone know why it was being done, was completely uncalled for. I would even venture so far as to say that first post, in a farewell topic, was uncalled for. If you really have that big an issue, use PMs or talk to an Admin. Martyr Complex? Where? Neither Vaescent nor myself are trying to make ourselves out to be victims. Vaescent has a single small area in his post involving himself, and really uses it only as a supporting point. My first post in this topic also has a mere two or 3 sentences about myself. the majority of both ouir posts were dedicated to pointing out how others were treated poorly. In fact, my post at one point specifically states that if anyone should have been attacked, it should have been me, and only me. Gwydd has left the Temple temporarily, yes, but not because he feels like a victim. He specifically stated that he realizes he needs to leave to avoid causing more issues, and I respect that. That is not making ourselves out to be martyrs for whatever cause you think we're going for, and I take offense to your baseless accusation. Next time, think about it before accusing, eh? Vaescent and I realized there was a problem after the fiasco with the last thread, and we're trying to fix it here. Pointing fingers and leveling baseless accusations only exacerbates the issue. I'd say more, but it might possibly be perceived as flaming, so I'll just end here.
I know you said you're not going to come back. Still responding. First point: The post is still there. Page 4. Seems you didn't even try to find it. At all. And I did read it again. While you don't outright direct it at us, it seems to imply that you are. And even if you were talking to everyone within the thread, the mere fact that you even played that card is telling. Second Point: As has been shown, the thread was not meant to be taken seriously. Thirdly, I don't know why you thought it was trying to be serious instead of facetious. I mean, you said that after Gwydd thanked whoever modded it for helping us into PG. How could you think that wasn't facetious? If it wasn't, we'd have been yelling at Admins to take it out of PG. You didn't clarify why you thought this, and I didn't respond, because, honestly, I was confused as to what you were thinking. Now that I've got that out of the way... As Silverpine asked, what are we going to do to fix what's going on? Continuing to attack each other and make points and counterpoints will solve nothing. Posts like Grim's, whatever it was before it got modded, serve only to sow more resentment and discord. This thread narrowly avoided taking a turn for the worse, and we need to make sure that doesn't happen again. It shouldn't even have happened to begin with, really. |
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| Crash | Dec 4 2010, 12:02 PM Post #62 |
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Wheey! I've became a human being!! I am very handsam!
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Huh, could have sworn Were said he deleted that post, so I didn't bother looking for it. >_> |
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| UltaFlame | Dec 4 2010, 12:17 PM Post #63 |
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Thanks Poui.
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I'm not really going to take sides her, Jarnak, but if you're hoping to avoid future issues, it may be smart to leave paragraphs like that last one there out of your posts. |
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| Jarnakel Magnus | Dec 4 2010, 01:22 PM Post #64 |
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Nothing to siege here, move along.
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What? The last paragraph says we need to stop attacking each other and do something already. |
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| simplechild | Dec 4 2010, 02:42 PM Post #65 |
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My only feel is murder
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I think it's because you looked at perhaps two examples of attacking other people (perhaps including yourself in that example) to generalize the entire thread and perhaps the entire userbase. I inferred this from that last paragraph, by the way. I have no idea if you actually did that so correct me if I'm wrong. |
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| Jarnakel Magnus | Dec 4 2010, 04:28 PM Post #66 |
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Nothing to siege here, move along.
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I wasn't trying to generalize the entire userbase, and the ONLY example I used was Grim's post, which was modded, hence using it to support my point. Said post was the point that the thread almost took a turn for the worse. This thread was not made for people to attack each other, but to figure out what's going on and deal with it, which is what the last paragraph is meant to indicate. I fail to see how that's a bad thing. EDIT: I count Grim as a friend, and I'm sure he knows I wasn't using his post to generalize the userbase, or even him. The fact is, it happened, and almost set off another shitstorm, which is what we want to avoid. |
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| simplechild | Dec 4 2010, 05:15 PM Post #67 |
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My only feel is murder
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I never said that it was a bad thing, but now I know what you mean by it. |
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| Silverpine | Dec 4 2010, 08:42 PM Post #68 |
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Starry Knight
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Will do my best, then. You know, even with all this drama llama business going on, I still think ya'll are good people. So I have no doubt that we'll be alright. C: |
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| UltaFlame | Dec 4 2010, 08:43 PM Post #69 |
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Thanks Poui.
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My bad, I guess I meant the last sentence. Though maybe I was just too tired or something; it seems fine now. Eh. |
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| Fluff | Dec 5 2010, 12:54 AM Post #70 |
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The Temple Asshole
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Some day, we will look back on this and laaaaaaaaaaaaugh... - The Staff |
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| Artemis | Dec 5 2010, 12:56 AM Post #71 |
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Plus Ultra
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Fluff, you really are intoxicated to the point of holy [radio edit]ing shit. XFD |
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| Super Slash | Dec 5 2010, 12:57 AM Post #72 |
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We all know what Fluff does for a living: tries to pretend he's mad on a forum with random internet people. |
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| Fluff | Dec 5 2010, 12:57 AM Post #73 |
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The Temple Asshole
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I also apologize to all the people who have to clean up after me. |
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| Fluff | Dec 5 2010, 12:58 AM Post #74 |
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The Temple Asshole
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Ah, the things we do when we're inebriated~ |
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| The Grim Lich | Dec 5 2010, 12:58 AM Post #75 |
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Legitimate Businessman
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If you can call that living.
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| Super Slash | Dec 5 2010, 12:59 AM Post #76 |
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Fluff, please, knock off the superiority crap. It's not even entertaining, it's just stupid. |
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| Fluff | Dec 5 2010, 01:00 AM Post #77 |
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The Temple Asshole
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[hilarious, but mean post] |
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| Super Slash | Dec 5 2010, 01:03 AM Post #78 |
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lolz, you hate anyone that disagrees with you. How very mature of you. I know I really shouldn't be continuing this, but why in the heck isn't this guy banned yet? I've only been here for a few months and 85% of his posts that I've seen are nothing but trolling. |
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| The Grim Lich | Dec 5 2010, 01:05 AM Post #79 |
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Legitimate Businessman
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I'm still waitin' to see what Gwee-chan's response is. :3 |
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| Adnarel | Dec 5 2010, 01:05 AM Post #80 |
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I'd rather be outside.
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Slash, shame on you for dragging this out and taking him seriously. Also, post preview'd for The Mighty Fluffball. |
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