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Pokemon Tournaments!; In my Temple? More likely than you think,
Topic Started: Sep 26 2010, 11:49 PM (4,002 Views)
Admiral Miral
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Jarnakel Magnus
Sep 26 2010, 11:49 PM
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King's Rock Togekiss, here I come! Can you say air slash?
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Crash
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Wheey! I've became a human being!! I am very handsam!

NOPE BANNED BECAUSE OF SMOGON
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Fate
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Miral-King's Rock and Air Slash don't stack.

:mia: :isaac:
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Lemubaby
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Can we use the same team for all three tournaments? I really like my team.
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Fate
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This tournament is looking sillier and sillier.
"No Smogon Sets" covers pretty much every set in existance.
And I for one, am not going to weaken all of my hand-raised Pokémon, and waste heart scales etc. at the same time.

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UltaFlame
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Thanks Poui.

So compete in the Tourney of Mind.
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Fate
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Meh.
I probobly will, as that will be the only tourney that actually gets run.

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Jarnakel Magnus
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Nothing to siege here, move along.

.....................

We said competitive strategies are banned. Strategies, not movesets. Movesets are more tactical, strategies encompass the entire team for the most part. And no, a lot of movesets that are competitive are not obvious. Stealth rock is not used by everyone. I know I've only used it one one team, and that was because I was being competitive with said team. Hell, I had a shitton of people call me a metagamer because I finally put stealth rock on that team. If I got called meta because I put it on a SINGLE team, that tells me that no, everyone does not use it.

Again, it's mostly competitive setups we're worried about, using one mon to set up for another mon, then switching out and using the second mon to set up more stuff so that your third mon can just obliterate the enemy team. That is not casual at all. Nowhere did we say that using movesets on smogon is disallowed. We said that SPECIFICALLY SETTING UP YOUR TEAM WITH META STRATEGIES IS NOT. [radio edit]ING READ.

If you all want to [radio edit] because I'm trying to make it so that the casual gamers can actually have fun instead of losing every single battle to you metagamers, then I might just close this down. Are you all going to keep being assholes and going "OLOLOLEVERYTHING IS BANNED," or are you going to grow the [radio edit] up and discuss this in a civilized manner?

And lemu, did you read the whole thing? your question is answered in there.

EDIT: And WTF, Deddy and Fate? WHERE THE [radio edit] DID WE SAY SKARMORY WAS BANNED? [radio edit]ING NOWHERE.

Weaken your hand raised Pokemon? We're giving you TWO [radio edit]ING MONTHS to build another team because we REALIZED that some of the regulations would not work for pre-established teams!
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Jarnakel Magnus
Sep 27 2010, 06:47 PM
And no, a lot of movesets that are competitive are not obvious. Stealth rock is not used by everyone. I know I've only used it one one team, and that was because I was being competitive with said team. Hell, I had a shitton of people call me a metagamer because I finally put stealth rock on that team. If I got called meta because I put it on a SINGLE team, that tells me that no, everyone does not use it.
If anything, your little point about Stealth Rock actually lends credence to what my point was. My sentence specifically said that everyone uses it "competitively" which of course means metagame. So if your friends started calling you "meta gamer" specifically because you started using that single move, doesn't that suggest that it is a "metagame strategy"? Heck, you even mentioned that the reason you were using the move to begin with was because that team was specifically meant for competitive metagaming.


I don't even play competitively and never will, and I don't give a rip about Stealth Rock (though if I were in this contest I'd sure as hell be using it, it's an awesome move), so I'm not offended by your efforts here, I'm just pointing out that your rules about "competitive strategies" are incredibly vague and will most likely lead to problems later.
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The only one who's looking particularly whine-y is you. Screw this noise, count me out.
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Fate
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Ah.
Stratagies only?
Gotcha.
I got nothing to wrroy about then, as I've always taken the view that stratagies fall aprat with the right counter, and I loathe using moves like Steath Rock anyway.

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Gwydd
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What Jarn said above is pretty much my position, though I would go about it in a little more leisurely fashion. Basically, what we're worried about is that people aren't thinking for themselves and are just buying into the shoddy battle team set-ups and strategies dictated to them, and that other people would get upset about that because they're at a knowledge disadvantage.

For example: I looked through the smogon movesets to think about several of my current competitive team roster members, but I've never let it decide for me how to set up my team. I play with the Pokémon I want, not just one environment.

The third tourney is the only one made specifically for a competitive environment – the Overused or Standard Tier. Of course, nothing keeps you from using Underused or Never-used Pokémon in that tournament.

Also, remember, the second tourney won't happen until after the first tourney ends. The third one will be the only concurrent one. And we're giving you a couple months – until the start of December – to get your 16 Pokemon ready (assuming you use a 10-mon Roster for Tourney 2 and 6 other ones that aren't in that roster for Tourney 3.

Hope that clarifies some things. Please give me more questions if necessary.
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Mmkay, the way I understood it is-

Tourney 1: GO STARAPTOR LUCARIO GARCHOMP (aka ingame teams)
Tourney 3: Mmkay, Kiss Thunder Waves their Heatran, good job. Oh and don't forget Stealth Rock from Tyranitar. Now that that's done, I should be able to get an OHKo on my +2 Close Combat... So I get out my Starmie, Trick it's Specs so that they're locked into a move that Luke resists, then lure it in, at which point Lucario sets up Swords Dance and it's gg. (aka no rules, go all you want)
Tourney 2: I have no idea what this means >_> I plan to use an old conpetitive team for this, since it realy just was old "this pokemon is cool, what does Smogon say" over and over again. So yeah.

Is my understanding right?
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Saelnaha
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Let's just wait and see what happens.

Guys guys guys I just realized a terrible flaw in holding the tourney at the beginning of December.

Because December comes immediately after November, yeah?

And what happens toward the end of November? Anyone care to guess?
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Will
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Anime was a mistake

Your pregnancy comes to term?
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Steve does have a point... I'd rather postpone it, actually, but if that's just me...

Then again, it is only one match a week.
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UltaFlame
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Thanks Poui.

HO FUDGE.

HE'S RIGHT.

Even though I wasn't planning on participating, the guy has a point.
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Fate
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THIS

CHANGES

EVERYTHING

Yeah, I certainly won't be playing Pokémon at that time.
Good one pointing that out.

:mia: :isaac:
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Jarnakel Magnus
Sep 26 2010, 11:49 PM
-No two Pokémon in a team are to be the same.
i refus to enter unless i can have a team of woopers >(
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