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ATTN: Whoever said Lady Gaga was good; Gwydd, Sun, and whoever else
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Jun 5 2010, 03:30 AM
....either way, in case I still didn't clarify this(no, it's not directed at anyone in particular).

I don't care if you think she is indecent, obscene, flat-out disgusting, or whatever the case maybe. That's hardly my business. But if you choose to try convey that with the language of objectivity on the basis that she is "sexual" or promotes profane sexuality in one way or another, is a generic/untalented sellout, or anything of the sort. Then we are going to have problems.
agreed.

~mao...
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Jun 4 2010, 04:13 AM
Music I like? Paramore, Linkin Park *refuses Sacra stares*, Shannon Noll, Evanescence, video game music.
I completely missed this the first time around. Dude, that is NOT something you admit to in front of other people. Ever. Paramore: that's pitched wailing, not good singing. Linkin Park: they're all right, if you have absolutely no self respect or taste at all. Shannon Noll: just plain bad. Video game music: it's just musical white noise, not even worth listening to. Evanescence: you can keep this one but not too much of it, because she tends to start whining.

You should stop listening to that wannabe crap and start listening to actual artists. Pink would be to your tastes, I think; she has some really beautiful songs (try Ave Mary A and Sober). Led Zeppelin, Queen, Muse, Radiohead, Guns & Roses, The Killers, Pink Floyd, R.E.M., The Cure (NOT Killing An Arab), maybe some David Bowie, maybe some Beatles...definitely Jimi Hendrix, no doubt about that. If you want softer stuff, try some Simon and Garfunkel, Don McLean, Michael Smith, Peter Paul and Mary, and some Bob Dylan and Beach Boys if you're REALLY old school. Flobots are extremely good, although rap isn't really everyone's cup of tea. I don't really think they're straightforward rap though, more like jazz-rap-rhythmic poetry or something. Finally, if you want metal you need to get into Dream Theater, Symphony X, Cynic, and a British band called Skyclad. Maybe Opeth. Most people would tell you to listen to early Metallica, but quite honestly I've never heard a Metallica song I actually liked, "Master of Puppets" included.

Any song by any of the people I just mentioned will blow any song by any of the people you just mentioned out of the water (except "Bring Me To Life" because the vocal contrast in that song is actually very well done). Once you've gone and educated yo' self on that stuff--and I just threw a huge variety of form, style, and culture at you--come back and listen to GaGa and you'll get why she's actually extremely clever.

Oh, and her lyrics are almost completely meaningless unless you watch her music videos as well.

@Sclater: read this, and the other stuff about her there.

She's a very clever, very funny girl. My love/hate relationship with her is the same as my love/hate relationship with Radiohead--I love the artists, but hate their fans.

On a separate note, is it just me or do all Radiohead fans elevate the band to some godlike status? They're extremely good, and they're absolutely groundbreaking, but they're not Queen or anything.

Edit: also, this is probably going to need to be moved to the art forum in about a day, because I will rain down serious discussion on this topic like a Linkin Park fan raining down tears on the cuts on his wrist.
Edited by Fluff, Jun 5 2010, 03:44 AM.
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ewwwww. punk... listen to kpop! ^^

~mao...
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I will END you. Jesus christ, Kpop. Yuck, yuck yuck.
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you will 'end' me? hmph. catch me if you can! XD

and kpop IS NOT disgusting. urgh. but an expected response from one who only listens to english music. *ahem Insularity* listen to other songs.

~mao...
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Jun 5 2010, 03:39 AM
Video game music: it's just musical white noise, not even worth listening to.
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Actually, Fluff, IDID think that my music was getting dull, so I'll probably check some of tht out when I have the chance ^_^
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Odyssey, ya see~ Odyssey, ya see~

My brother is a huge fan of The Cure, and one of my friends is a big fan of The Killers. They're always blasting their music out of their iPods respectively and forcing me to listen. XD
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Jun 4 2010, 06:49 PM
^^ The feeling is mutual.
I will kill any children you might have.
No, Krissy, no you won't.
Gunna try and stop me, foo'? D:<
Yes.
Also, I agree with everything Fluff just said.
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Jun 5 2010, 03:39 AM
Video game music: it's just musical white noise, not even worth listening to.
Is this some kind of joke? Oh noes it has no lyrics~

Okay sure, maybe some music from extremely old games is deafening, but otherwise VGM can be extremely entertaining to listen to. Final Fantasy, Tales, Valkyrie Profile, Golden Sun, Mana Khemia, heck even Pokemon has some nice tracks (particularly the 3D games).

Not all VGM is good of course, but some of it is fantastic. The way you described it is derogatory beyond belief.
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uh oh

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Jun 5 2010, 03:39 AM
Pink would be to your tastes, I think; she has some really beautiful songs (try Ave Mary A and Sober). Led Zeppelin(Led Zeppelin IV and before are definitely acceptable), Queen, Muse, Radiohead(preferably not Pablo Honey, it's alright at best; all their other albums blow it out of the water, OK Computer for sure), Guns & Roses(old stuff only, new stuff is generally agreed to be shit), The Killers, Pink Floyd, R.E.M., The Cure (NOT Killing An Arab), definitely most of David Bowie, maybe some Beatles...definitely Jimi Hendrix, no doubt about that. If you want softer stuff, try some Simon and Garfunkel, Don McLean, Michael Smith, Peter Paul and Mary, Bob Dylan is a must and Beach Boys if you're REALLY old school. Flobots and Gorrilaz are good enough to say the absolute least(I've never heard anyone say they're shit, so.) although rap isn't really everyone's cup of tea. I don't really think they're straightforward rap though, more like jazz-rap-rhythmic poetry or something. Finally, if you want metal you need to get into Dream Theater, Symphony X, Slayer, Testament, maybe Megadeth. Never listen to Slipknot, they're shit. Maybe Opeth also. Most people would tell you to listen to early Metallica, and quite honestly they're on the spot if you want to get into metal.

She's a very clever, very funny girl. My love/hate relationship with her is the same as my love/hate relationship with Radiohead--I love the artists, but hate their fans.

On a separate note, is it just me or do all Radiohead fans elevate the band to some godlike status? They're extremely good, and they're absolutely groundbreaking, but they're not Queen or anything.
Bold is fixed. My thoughts are expressed in the above. Referring to the separate note, yes, yes they do. I think they're good, just not as good as all of the fans are saying they are. e.g. I find most people need to get used to Thom Yorke's singing voice in order to fully enjoy Radiohead's music - or at least enjoy it the way the fans are screaming the way you should. >_> Yes, they are good, but not THAT good.

Oh, and for indie rock - start with Modest Mouse, Silversun Pickups, Metric, Vampire Weekend, and the like. It's indie rock, so expect some weird ass names.
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Jun 5 2010, 06:36 AM
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Video game music: it's just musical white noise, not even worth listening to.
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Seriously you guys? Shut the hell up about other music tastes being 'bad.' I pisses me off when people do that. It's [radio edit]ing dumb to say 'oh, my music is so much better, listen to it!' There's a reason that your taste in music is YOURS and not EVERYONE'S. It's fine if you're just suggesting music, but flat out insulting people based on their taste in music? Shut the [radio edit] up.
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peytral pls

The Internet: Where nobody's allowed to have their own opinions.

Oh wait, that's everywhere.
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Jun 5 2010, 09:21 AM
Guns & Roses(old stuff only, new stuff is generally agreed to be shit)
lolno, the only reason G&R's fans think the Chinese Democracy is shit is because "It doesn't have Slash so its not Guns N' Roses ololololol". Chinese Democracy took to long to be realeased, I'll give you that, but there are some fantastic songs on it. Really, the only album that G&R has released that you should stay away from is The Spagettin Incident.
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I was being sarcastic, and I kind of assumed Fluff was being Fluff. Other than that, I don't think anyone was forcing opinions >_>

Also, maybe this should go in Arts?
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Jun 5 2010, 09:33 AM
Seriously you guys? Shut the hell up about other music tastes being 'bad.' I pisses me off when people do that. It's [radio edit]ing dumb to say 'oh, my music is so much better, listen to it!' There's a reason that your taste in music is YOURS and not EVERYONE'S. It's fine if you're just suggesting music, but flat out insulting people based on their taste in music? Shut the [radio edit] up.
This whole paragraph is CLEARLY WRONG.
Okay, I actually agree, but what the hey. I don't like other peoples music but I'm not going to deny that they like it. I dislike most of the 'good' music that Fluff raged about. I listen mostly to Jpop but am EXTREMELY PICKY. I listen to it because I don't buy CDs or listen to the radio so I don't know what 'popular' sounds like /o/
As for Insul's music, they're not that bad. I only have one Paramore song but I really like it despite how emo-b1tch the whole thing is.
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peytral pls

Obviously you should drown out the popular shit with some Kansas and power metal bands.
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Jun 5 2010, 09:43 AM
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Jun 5 2010, 09:33 AM
Seriously you guys? Shut the hell up about other music tastes being 'bad.' I pisses me off when people do that. It's [radio edit]ing dumb to say 'oh, my music is so much better, listen to it!' There's a reason that your taste in music is YOURS and not EVERYONE'S. It's fine if you're just suggesting music, but flat out insulting people based on their taste in music? Shut the [radio edit] up.
This whole paragraph is CLEARLY WRONG.
Okay, I actually agree, but what the hey. I don't like other peoples music but I'm not going to deny that they like it. I dislike most of the 'good' music that Fluff raged about. I listen mostly to Jpop but am EXTREMELY PICKY. I listen to it because I don't buy CDs or listen to the radio so I don't know what 'popular' sounds like /o/
As for Insul's music, they're not that bad. I only have one Paramore song but I really like it despite how emo-b1tch the whole thing is.
I don't think his taste is bad, it's just his. I didn't say he should shut up because he had shit tastes. :P

And I know Insul.
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Heh? That's not what I meant at all, Spella D8 I was just giving an example as how people aren't necessarily 'right' or 'wrong' about music, because it's entirely based on opinion.
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