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Topic Started: Apr 22 2010, 09:09 AM (4,960 Views)
Tlephle

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Chaotic-Good
82% Good, 58% Chaotic

Expected Neutral Good. Didn't expect to have the highest 'good' score so far, either.
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Gilgamesh
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Apr 23 2010, 03:38 PM
Gilgamesh
Apr 23 2010, 03:33 PM
I always thought they would be all the Lawful ones, rather than all the Good ones...
I've never gotten that impression from them. :/
Not from the members as a whole *cough*Dancer*cough*, but that would be ideal for a Solian, I think.
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UltaFlame
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Thanks Poui.

Fine, I'll take the second test now.
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Gilgamesh
Apr 23 2010, 03:45 PM
Akiko-chan
Apr 23 2010, 03:38 PM
Gilgamesh
Apr 23 2010, 03:33 PM
I always thought they would be all the Lawful ones, rather than all the Good ones...
I've never gotten that impression from them. :/
Not from the members as a whole *cough*Dancer*cough*, but that would be ideal for a Solian, I think.
So you're saying that the current Solians fail to uphold what should be the overall values of Sol Clan?

:mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn:
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Jarnakel Magnus
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Nothing to siege here, move along.

Role
Apr 23 2010, 03:12 PM
Don't forget that often times leaders seem decent, only to turn into Lawful Stupid. IF you're gonna be a leader, do try not to be a dumbass, okay?
This.

This is why on AE, I am NEVER letting my guild reach top ten, because once you get to that point, you tie yourself down with diplomacy and end up stagnating or dying (Lawful stupid), and/or you make everyone hate you and they kill you (Chaotic Stupid).

Nope. We're going to stay small and mid-ranked, and beat on the top ten guilds just like we've been doing for a year. Because it's fun. (Chaotic AWESOME)
Edited by Jarnakel Magnus, Apr 23 2010, 03:54 PM.
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UltaFlame
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Thanks Poui.

our result for The Alignment Test ...
Lawful-Neutral
50% Good, 42% Chaotic
Plane of Existence: Mechanus, "Nirvana". Description: This clockwork plane is the ultimate in order; scholars and constructs live here. Notable Inhabitants: Inevitables, mechanical enforcers of all law; Formians, warlike ant-like beings; Modrons, orderly geometrically-shaped beings.

Examples of Lawful-Neutrals (Ethically Lawful, Morally Neutral)

Any of the Weapons (FFVII)
The Turks (FFVII)
Cait Sith (FFVII)
Percy Weasly
Sonny from I-Robot (leans towards Neutral-Good; "It just seened heartless")
Viki from I-Robot (leans towards Neutral-Evil; "My logic is undeniable")
Kang from "Kung Fu"
Robert Peele
"Cop just doin' his job"
"Generic Soldier"
"Generic Judge"
"Referee"
"Loyal Servant"

Respects the laws and customs of the group, but does not necessarily consider creature rights to be the highest priority. Because the lawful neutral person is not too concerned with questions of morality, s/he will be a more faithful group member and a more loyal follower of his or her alignment than any differently aligned person. The lawful neutral person is an advocate of law and order.

Will keep their word if they give it
May attack an unarmed foe
May use poison
May help those in need
Prefers to work with others
Trustful of organizations
Responds well to higher authority

Lawful Neutral "Pure Law"
"Judge"

A lawful neutral [person] is directed by law, tradition, or a personal code. Order and organization are paramount to her. S/he may believe in personal order and live by a code or standard, or she may believe in order for all and favor a strong, organized government.

Lawful neutral combines reliability and honor, without moral bias.

Other Alignments and Tendencies (Tendenices are what you would more often sway towards; esp. for Neutrals):
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Dracobolt
Apr 23 2010, 03:50 PM
Gilgamesh
Apr 23 2010, 03:45 PM
Akiko-chan
Apr 23 2010, 03:38 PM
Gilgamesh
Apr 23 2010, 03:33 PM
I always thought they would be all the Lawful ones, rather than all the Good ones...
I've never gotten that impression from them. :/
Not from the members as a whole *cough*Dancer*cough*, but that would be ideal for a Solian, I think.
So you're saying that the current Solians fail to uphold what should be the overall values of Sol Clan?

:mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn:
Exactly. Which, of course, means that Peytral failed so hard at failing that he started succeeding.
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Jarnakel Magnus
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Nothing to siege here, move along.

@ Luta/Ulta: Lawful scum!

@Gilgamesh: Peytral's just awesome like that. Don't be hating.
Edited by Jarnakel Magnus, Apr 23 2010, 03:59 PM.
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UltaFlame
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Thanks Poui.

Dude, I'm so BARELY lawful, that I prolly shsould've been Neutral. Just 8% >.>

And besides: http://s9.zetaboards.com/The_Temple_of_Kraden/single/?p=8055645&t=7202305
Edited by UltaFlame, Apr 23 2010, 04:01 PM.
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The Phantom Squee
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Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?"

Role
Apr 23 2010, 10:02 AM
Jarnakel Magnus
Apr 22 2010, 07:34 PM
2 lawful tendencies does not make one lawful. >_<

Just like a single evil tendency does not make you evil.

Now, we ALL agree, that stealing is wrong, and that it's an evil thing to do.

Robin Hood. He stole. That does not make him evil. In fact, if we look at the circumstances of the theft, stealing makes him GOOD. Give me more rock solid reasoning before you peg me as lawful.
Stealing is Chaotic, not Evil. It's why you can't be a Lawful Rogue in D&D, but you CAN be a Good one.
Actually, rogues have no alignment restrictions. They can be anything.
Edited by The Phantom Squee, Apr 23 2010, 04:06 PM.
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Jarnakel Magnus
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Nothing to siege here, move along.

The Phantom Squee
Apr 23 2010, 04:00 PM
Role
Apr 23 2010, 10:02 AM
Jarnakel Magnus
Apr 22 2010, 07:34 PM
2 lawful tendencies does not make one lawful. >_<

Just like a single evil tendency does not make you evil.

Now, we ALL agree, that stealing is wrong, and that it's an evil thing to do.

Robin Hood. He stole. That does not make him evil. In fact, if we look at the circumstances of the theft, stealing makes him GOOD. Give me more rock solid reasoning before you peg me as lawful.
Stealing is Chaotic, not Evil. It's why you can't be a Lawful Rogue in D&D, but you CAN be a Good one.
Actually, rogue have no alignment restrictions. They can be anything.
Role also missed my modifier.

Most people if asked would say stealing is an evil thing to do, because you're taking away something that someone else earned.
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The Phantom Squee
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Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?"

Lawful-Good

80% Good, 44% Chaotic
Plane of Existence: Mount Celestia, "The Seven Heavens". Description: Countless paladins and saints have ascended here. Notable Inhabitants: Angels and Devas.

Examples of Lawful-Goods (Ethically Lawful, Morally Good)

Aeris "Aerith" Gainsborough (FFVII)
Superman
The Tick ("Lawful Stupid")
Abraham Lincoln
Sherlock Holmes
Phileas Fogg
Captain Picard

A person with a lawful good attitude believes in the use of authority and rule of law to bring good to the greatest number of people. Her/His actions support the status quo and s/he uses systems and organizations to achieve good goals.

S/He will keep his/her word and value truth.
S/He will avoid the use of poison and use violence only when authorized to do so or in self defense.
S/He may or may not be disciplined, organized, emotionally restrained, caring, compassionate, and peaceful, but s/he believes that these are admirable qualities.
Respects law and order and is willing to suffer limitations on individual freedom for the benefit of the group.
Puts moral principles before material considerations.
The lawful good person will be a very faithful member of a group, but if the laws of the group clash with the ethics dictated by his or her moral alignment, the lawful good person will probably leave that group and look for a group more closely aligned with his or her ethics.
The lawful good person is an active advocate of his or her beliefs.

Lawful Good "Saintly"
"Crusader"

A lawful good [person] upholds society and its laws, believing that these laws are created to work for the good and prosperity of all. He is both honest and benevolent. He will work within the established system to change it for the better, and strives to bring order to goodness that other good-aligned [people] might pool their resources to better the world. A lawful good [person] combines a commitment to oppose evil with discipline. Most lawful good [people] live by a strict code of honor, or by the rules of conduct set down by their deity. They will generally selflessly act by these codes even at the cost of their own life.

Lawful good combines honor and compassion for the innocent.

A knight/paladin who always follows the orders of his superiors is an example of a lawful good [person].

Other Alignments and Tendencies (Tendenices are what you would more often sway towards; esp. for Neutrals):
0-39% Good, 0-39% Chaotic: Lawful-Evil
0-39% Good, 40-60% Chaotic: Neutral-Evil
0-39% Good, 61-100% Chaotic: Chaotic-Evil
40-60% Good, 0-39% Chaotic: Lawful-Neutral
40-60% Good, 40-60% Chaotic: True Neutral
40-60% Good, 61-100% Chaotic: Chaotic-Neutral
61-100% Good, 40-60% Chaotic: Neutral-Good
61-100% Good, 61-100% Chaotic: Chaotic-Good


Huh, interesting. Also, the amounts of FFVII in these results is disgusting.

Also also, bolded the ones that don't really apply to me. I still maintain that I'm more NG with lawful tendencies.
Edited by The Phantom Squee, Apr 23 2010, 04:15 PM.
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GoV
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Hear it, see it, speak it.

Chaotic-Evil

26% Good, 86% Chaotic
Plane of Existence: The Abyss, "Plane of Infinite Layers". Notable Inhabitants: Demons.

Examples of Chaotic-Evils (Ethically Chaotic, Morally Evil)

Sephiroth (FFVII)
Jack The Ripper
Baron Vladamir Harkonnen
Blackbeard the Pirate
Cruella DeVille
Khan Noonian Singh
Dr. Evil
The Joker
Professor Moriarty
Lord Voldemort

Actively opposes law, order, good, and all other sissy constraints on doing whatever he or she feels like doing. The stereotypical chaotic evil [person] is the black knight, roaming around on his own, looking for something nasty to do.

Will not necessarily keep their word
Would attack an unarmed foe
Will use poisons
Will not help those in need
Prefers to work alone
Responds poorly to higher authority
Distrustful of organizations
Self-preservation and personal gain are their ultimate goals.
Less inclined to long term planning.

Chaotic Evil "Demonic"
"Destroyer"

A chaotic evil [person] does whatever his greed, hatred, and lust for destruction drive him to do. If he is simply out for whatever he can get, he is ruthless and brutal. If he is committed to the spread of evil and chaos, he is even worse. Fortunately, his plans are haphazard, and any groups he joins or forms are poorly organized. Typically, chaotic evil people can be made to work together only by force, and their leader lasts only as long as he can thwart attempts to topple or assassinate him.

These [people] will commit any act to further their own ends. Chaotic evil is sometimes called "demonic" because demons are the epitome of chaotic evil.

Chaotic evil is power without control, selfishness unfettered by any law.

Other Alignments and Tendencies (Tendenices are what you would more often sway towards; esp. for Neutrals):
0-39% Good, 0-39% Chaotic: Lawful-Evil
0-39% Good, 40-60% Chaotic: Neutral-Evil
40-60% Good, 0-39% Chaotic: Lawful-Neutral
40-60% Good, 40-60% Chaotic: True Neutral
40-60% Good, 61-100% Chaotic: Chaotic-Neutral
61-100% Good, 0-39% Chaotic: Lawful-Good
61-100% Good, 40-60% Chaotic: Neutral-Good
61-100% Good, 61-100% Chaotic: Chaotic-Good
Edited by GoV, Apr 23 2010, 10:46 PM.
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Boyd, Good, not Lawful, is the umbrella that Solians fall under. It's in the freaking description:

"We're as varied as the good creatures of Weyard themselves. In fact, we make up many of the good creatures of Weyard - whether lawful, neutral, or chaotic, you can count on a Solian to follow his or her strong sense of justice. Loathe to see discord, but always with a sunlit glint of mischief in the eye, the Solian is an easy character to get along with, so long as you are not sowing said discord."
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I guess, but that's no fun in an RP to have all Solians be good. That's a stereotype :U
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Is Solian an alignment or an element? Do Solians lose their elemental powers if they do bad?

:mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn:
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Well, notice how it says their own strong sense of justice? That's the loophole that allows for Well-Intentioned Extremists and the like. So as long as they believed they were doing the right thing... like, for example, Saturos the Shrike could still be a Solian, despite being a complete monster in some people's eyes.

Also, the thing about stereotype is that it's basically synonymous with identity - in our culture usually the distinction is if something's a good assumption, it's identity, if it's bad, it's stereotype. So it's a cheap way to take the good and leave the bad. =P
But yeah, if you take away Goodness, then what does it mean to be Solian? That you just happen to use a different kind of psynergy? Doesn't really leave much to revolve the theme/identity of your Clan around, does it?

Edit: Well, I guess I'm speaking in terms of the culture, Draco. But - thinking of Templeverse here - in a world where you can petition to join a Clan, there must be something about that Clan and it's rules of governance that attracts you. It's like saying "Why are sea-pirates Mercurian?" because most people who like the sea and like pirates join Mercury, or whatevers. Crappy analogy, but. =P
Of course, as I said, it's a loose definition of Good. So punishing criminals by feeding them to the crystal is still (Lawful) Good, overthrowing the gods because of all the suffering they cause in the world and for the sake of estranged love is still Good, assassination is still Good (because it minimizes loss of life), et cetera... xP
So, don't confuse Lawful Good with all aspects of Good. xP
Edited by Saturos, Apr 25 2010, 03:14 PM.
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Good point. Besides, if all the Lunarians are gonna try and act evil/cannibalistic, I suppose you guys may as well be good; for all the "lolSol" you guys get, at least you guys have variety
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Also inb4Isk
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Seoulbowz
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Seoulbowz took test one and got a True Neutral result.
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Neutral Good here.
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