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Topic Started: May 17 2009, 09:14 PM (1,541 Views)
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uh oh

Adnarel
May 18 2009, 11:33 PM
Sensing massive amounts of Internet Tough Guy in this topic.  If the name-calling doesn't stop, the topic gets locked.  I'm appalled at the behavior in here, and request all of this ridiculous judgmental behavior to stop at once.  This is NOT the Temple of Kraden that I'm familiar with.

This is one of the reasons why I lurk here more than actually participate in posting in these topics. It's interesting to watch.
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

Hm.

Well, I just think we've all be reacting very hastily to things in the wake of Grim Reapist coming back. I just ask that we suspend judgment on people until we've gotten to know them, that's all. I'm sorry that I made my post while I was hot-headed, and I'm sorry if I've caused undue grief to members worried about their own conduct. But I stand by the comment about locking the topic.

Also, Shadow's post is missing a predicate, and makes no sense. I spent a whole minute trying to decipher it. XD
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uh oh

If you're talking about putting a word in front of the 'one', then I suppose a 'it's' or something would do.
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

I think I may just have a god in my brain.
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Dracobolt
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Incorrigible

Happens to the best of us.

And by "best" I mean me.

:mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn: :mercury_djinn:
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

*glomps Dracobolt*
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Gilgamesh
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solbowz Aurarius

*epic facepalm*
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Necare
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While I must say I'm glad to see any hostilities have devolved into the Temple's usual happy-go-lucky nonsense we're all so fond of, I still feel compelled to address Adna about all this Srs Bsns.

Internet Tough Guy? Name-calling? With all the possible respect I'm humanly possible of giving you, (and you deserve it, being a fellow Kradenette and a moderator,) I call bullshit.

Yes, Fluff, Sundancer and I might have been quite harsh, but I think we all know that at least Fluff and I could have been far far worse. We all offered our opinions, being reasonably polite all the while, and both Sundancer and I apologized if our behavior came across as offensive. And a fair number of people agreed with us, even if their replies weren't as extensive or aggressive as ours.

In light of this, I'll admit to taking mild offense at your apparent warning. You did exactly what Griever did: accused us of being judgmental. None of us has done anything that would do more than slightly indicate judgmental behavior. I'll agree that in light of Reapist's recent "assault", tempers and defenses may be running a little high, but we've all done a decent job of keeping level heads in spite of that.

None of us have outright labeled Griever as anything, and here you and he are, jumping down our throats just the same as you say we're doing to him. I am incensed.

Anyway, I'm sure none of us want this topic getting ruined any further with continued ugly behavior, so I'm kindly asking Andy-cat to PM me if he wishes to continue this discussion.


:luna:
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*repeats Adna's disclaimer from the front page*

*also repeats Adna's opinion of the modded thread*
Better people have made worse errors, I'd say >_>

*continues repeating Adna's post*
o_0 Woah, hostility my friends, tone it down. Frankly I think Griever has every right to come and make this topic with EXACTLY the tone that was used in the first post. Frankly, with how we've all been acting about Reapist I'd say Griever was justified and the irritation should be expected.

"Hi, I'm n-"
"TROLL OMG SHUN."
"Wut?"



To Griever-

The Temple honestly DOES tend to have little dramatic episodes, and we seem to like doing it whenever a new member shows up. Why? I think it's to make everyone feel special. I liken it to Hazing in a way; you never know what you're gonna get, but it's going to SUCK.

I almost quit after my first week here too, honestly. Granted, it wasn't because of how I was treated, but it was in the middle of several members going around trolling ANOTHER board. (say what you will about GameFAQs and grudges, guys, but I remember the trolling spree and STILL wince) It was quite pathetic and I nearly quit, but I didn't and I don't regret the decision.

We have our ups and downs, like anything else I'd say. So just know we're not all out to brand you as a troll and hang you from your ankles while beating you with nettles (*makes note of this for Torture Chamber* Need more nettles...). Ultimately the decision is yours, as you've seen we can over-react sometimes but in my experience that's pretty classic for.. humans.


One last thing:

HOLY CRAP GUYS STOP RAGGING ON GREIVER FOR THE EXPLICIT CONTENT. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS APPROPRIATE AND WHAT'S NOT IN THE TEMPLE AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF, SAY, GAIAONLINE AS KIKI MENTIONED? REALLY HARD. THIS IS IN CAPS LOCK FOR THE TL;DRs 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE NOT READING THIS.
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Jacob
May 18 2009, 10:06 PM
*Jacob brutally rapes and murders Fluff

That's because you were buried deep on the backlog, you little queer-bag. You were one of the first to give me shit, and since I went with the most recent first, I had your name written down in blood (can't quite remember whose blood it was at the moment, but I'm sure it'll come to me.)

Thanks for reminding me, jackass! =D

Somehow I'm not surprised you wanted to rape me, Jacob, you little sexually frustrated football player, you. Admit it--the bowl-cut is supposed to make your head look like a penis, isn't it? >=]

Now, back to choking bitches and slapping hoes. B) Sunny, you're wrong. That is to say, you're right about Griever being entitled to feel offended, but you're wrong about the tone in his post. An appropriate tone would have been "Geez, I crossed a line I didn't understand, and everyone jumped down my throat. What the hell? Seriously, calm the hell down." Instead, what he ended up with was something close to "I crossed a line I didn't understand, and everyone jumped down my throat, but I don't care that you jumped down my throat, because your opinion doesn't matter."

I'm kind of laughing at myself right now, because a great deal of the time when I'm angry I say almost exactly what he said, except with a lot more arrogance and foaming-at-the-mouth-ness.

Griever, I don't particularly mind you. You're not a troll, whatever-the-hell else you are. You're also older than me, but that just means I score more points for taking you down, according to my handy-dandy flame war chart. Actually, I think you're just a few points below knocking over little old ladies with a shopping cart, and that's a LOT of points right there. ^_^ Since Adnarel wants me to be nice, I'll be nice. Sort of. I can completely sympathize with your confusion and frustration, since I've actually been in a very similar situation before here. Just remember the age of some of our members--Sundancer is what, 12? 13? I don't recall. Also, by joining the forum, you're admitting that the opinion of the members on here is at least nominally relevant to you. I have my fair share of people, even here, that I couldn't give less of a shit about, but "I'm never going to meet you" isn't really a valid reason. "I think you're an idiot and an asshole" is fine by me, as long as you're not simply assuming the members on here are worthless. Like I said, that annoys me.

Also, we need a name for Jacob-Fluff shipping. Brutalshipping, mebbe.
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Saturos
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To address Griever's post: I apologize if some people have been a little abrasive, but from the sounds of it, your topic was a bit sketchy. SPAM means only "stupid, pointless, annoying, message", and is generally something with no meaning at all. Aside from that, all the board rules still apply, including, as Fluff pointed out, our extremely outdated-but-still-applicable board rules.

To everyone else, or to whom it applies:
Be careful of what you say. Some people may have been taking a bit of a higher position than what they need to in telling people how to act, without giving the benefit of the doubt or being constructive. It helps to not think you're automatically better than everyone, and to put yourself in their shoes - everyone was a newb once, somewhere.
Scorn never helps anything, after all, even if you think someone may deserve it. After all, you may not always be right.
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Okay, so I sorted this out with Adna over PMs too anyway. Also, Fluff, 13. =P I'll be 14 in half a year. And in high school like half of the rest of you. Then I won't be left out. >_>

Anyway. His topic was a little sketchy, but y'know what, I'm already going to consider it in the past. He didn't know the rules, now he does, and y'know what, whatever. I was a little harsh in my post in that topic, and I apologize for that. The posts here I hope have been less harsh, if a little sarcastic. At any rate, I'm going to leave this be now... I'm getting tired of it, honestly. One last thing: I never did call him a troll; I said if it was a possibility I'd be miffed, but I never did after that. So, er... If that part is sorted out... >_>
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

*throws catnip at Sundancer*

Y'all are just cute as a button.
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Kiki
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Kiki Martius Chantico

*pinches Sundancer's cheeks*
AREN'T YOU A LITTLE SWEETIE-PIEEEE!!
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Sundancer
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Stargazer

*has a >_< expression*

How did this turn into me getting considered cute and my cheeks torn apart? *tries to resist the catnip* *fails*
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Because you're 13. That makes you, like... the Temple Chibi. =D scratches behind your ears*

Also, I lurk these topics because everyone gets to saying what I would have at some point or the other, so yeah. Same reason I never post at Gaia <<
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Necare
May 17 2009, 09:38 PM
First of all, in regards to you not caring about our respect: you'd better care, because without respect, none of us will take you seriously, Fluff isn't the only one who will act like Fluff toward you, and you'll probably end up getting yourself suspended or banned from this place. Of course, if you really don't care, than I see no problem. Our disapproval does have significance, because we've been here longer than you, and the admins' approval in particular decides your fate here.

Secondly, you might want to actually be here for a month or so before you post topics like the one that got modded. The Temple is pretty relaxed about sexual humor and slang, but that thread was mildly pornographic literature. Pretty shitty quality, I might add. It doesn't matter where you put it, and it doesn't matter if you wrote it or you copied and pasted it, we don't tolerate that kind of stuff here.

As for your quote about me, and accusing some of us of being black and white in regards to new users being trolls, you are sorely mistaken. For one, I would like to clarify that my comment was made in jest. If you had waited and checked out the Temple more, you would have realized that's just our brand of humor. (This also ties in to your modded topic.) In time you'll come to recognize the difference between individual members' seriousness, and our sense of humor.

As for us being on edge and sensitive about possible trolls, we have one in particular who has been very persistent, known and referred to as Grim Reapist. He has tried on numerous occasions to destroy the Temple and its community for nonsensical reasons known only to his own twisted mind. He has never been successful, but he has gone so far as to hire hackers to attempt to bring this place down. His most recent pathetic attempt was made shortly before you joined us.

I realize this post might come across as overly hostile and defensive, and for that I apologize. I'm just attempting to convey my opinion on the matter. Of course, I don't speak for the Temple, though I'm confident most of them will share my voice on this.


:luna:

So, because I don't think your e-respect has any meaning in the real world, the mods will suspend/ban me?


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^That, right there, all of you. (Read: ADNA)

Now you know he's either being deliberately obtuse, indicative of an immaturity level on par with Reapist's, or he has no clue how to understand someone else's point of view. F*ck politeness, I'm not repeating myself. Someone explain it to him before I get both of us banned.


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Not exactly. You'll have to give respect in order to get it as in any other social setting, but the mod's aren't going to suspend you just because you start acting like an ass(not saying that you will or anything). Of course, the administration will try to work it out with you, and the people involved can work it out between themselves. If all else fails, or if you just plain out ignore warnings or attempts to reconcile, then, yeah, we're gonna suspend.

We're not a dictatorshit. Although I will say I don't blame you if you get that vibe from some of the members here.

EDIT: Necare, go cool off. You're not exactly the best mediator here. >_>
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Not trying to be confrontational here, but there's something I've been thinking about lately:

The real world vs. Internet. Aren't the people we're talking to online REAL, living, breathing, people? The way I see it, they're both the real world...
I guess the internet has that level of anonymity that the 'real world' doesn't, but still. Just a point.

Anyways, I don't want to sound bossy, but how 'bout we try to close this issue in order to avoid more drama in here. We've already met our quota.
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