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A few questions about this forum.
Topic Started: May 17 2009, 09:14 PM (1,540 Views)
Griever
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Not even sure if this would be the right forum in which to ask this.

So, what exactly happened before I joined that's making everyone so paranoid (in regards to all new users being trolls) ?

I'm referring to this topic: http://z9.invisionfree.com/The_Temple_of_K...?showtopic=7455

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"So obviously I didn't read that all. And to be honest, out of what I did get out of it, I find this an exceedingly stupid thing to do. Everybody is already on high alert for trollers, what with the heightened security measures and all, but this is pretty dumb in general and no matter how much it may be done elsewhere, this is not accepted at the Temple as I know it. I don't care that it's in PG. I'm pretty damn well sure it violates some sort of ToS, and if for some reason it doesn't, it violates some rule or personal standards/whatever you call it.

And I had hoped the new member would be okay. =/ Sorry, but you just lost my respect. Oh, and if for some reason you are an actual troll, well, I take that apology back and hope you realize what you're doing is ... Not at all smart. If you aren't a troll, just don't do this again. Ahem, please."

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My sincerest apologies. I thought I posted a Spam topic in the:

*Pointless Gibberish (e-translation: Spam Board)
Incoherance, mindless blabberings, and things generally classified as pointless, it all goes here. Spam is allowed and completely unrestrained here, so beware.


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So I don't know about the rest of you, but I have no idea where the Hell this guy goes on the troll spectrum.


Out of curiosity, what exactly happened before I joined that's making everyone so on-edge?

And why does everything have to be so black and white with some of the user base in regards to new users being trolls? Refer to *
Are some of you honestly that self-absorbed that you think your disapproval of what I post, somehow has any significance? Oh boohoo, I won't ever be part of your e-clique. =[
I lost your respect? Big whoop. (Chances are) I'll never meet you in real life, so your respect is meaningless.


/observation


Note to the mod who deleted that first post: I apologize for that first post, I didn't realize the no cursing thing applied to the "Spam" board. Now I know. =O
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Dracobolt
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Eh, if you check the Intro foum, there's that topic about the final battle in all caps. It's that guy, a recurring troll. We have been fed up with dealing with his shenanigans, so we're watchful of any new members at the moment to make sure they're not his alts. I'll withhold posting my personal views on what went on in your modified topic for the present, though.

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Necare
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First of all, in regards to you not caring about our respect: you'd better care, because without respect, none of us will take you seriously, Fluff isn't the only one who will act like Fluff toward you, and you'll probably end up getting yourself suspended or banned from this place. Of course, if you really don't care, than I see no problem. Our disapproval does have significance, because we've been here longer than you, and the admins' approval in particular decides your fate here.

Secondly, you might want to actually be here for a month or so before you post topics like the one that got modded. The Temple is pretty relaxed about sexual humor and slang, but that thread was mildly pornographic literature. Pretty shitty quality, I might add. It doesn't matter where you put it, and it doesn't matter if you wrote it or you copied and pasted it, we don't tolerate that kind of stuff here.

As for your quote about me, and accusing some of us of being black and white in regards to new users being trolls, you are sorely mistaken. For one, I would like to clarify that my comment was made in jest. If you had waited and checked out the Temple more, you would have realized that's just our brand of humor. (This also ties in to your modded topic.) In time you'll come to recognize the difference between individual members' seriousness, and our sense of humor.

As for us being on edge and sensitive about possible trolls, we have one in particular who has been very persistent, known and referred to as Grim Reapist. He has tried on numerous occasions to destroy the Temple and its community for nonsensical reasons known only to his own twisted mind. He has never been successful, but he has gone so far as to hire hackers to attempt to bring this place down. His most recent pathetic attempt was made shortly before you joined us.

I realize this post might come across as overly hostile and defensive, and for that I apologize. I'm just attempting to convey my opinion on the matter. Of course, I don't speak for the Temple, though I'm confident most of them will share my voice on this.


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Kiki
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For the most part, this forum is a pretty close-knit community. Just like any community, you can't just charge in like it's gaiaonline and say whatever you want. You've gotta figure out how things work and who you're talking to first, like Necare said.

You'll find that most people here don't care much for drama, and move on quickly, so don't expect to be treated like crap because of that topic.

But look, I gotta say, if you carry on with the, "oh, boo hoo, I don't care what you think" attitude, the drama won't go away. Not that you care or don't know already, just, let's acknowlege that.
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Gilgamesh
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Just don't post porn or any other such nonsense. >_>

When in doubt, DON'T act like Fluff (no offense Fluff, but some people don't know you're joking until they get to know you).

You'll get used to the general conduct of the Temple and it's members with time.

Of course, I don't know what you posted that got modded, but whatever. Just don't take anything TOO personally. Think of it this way: what's the most annoying, immature, retarded person you can think of? Multiply that tenfold, and you have Reapist, our troll >_>
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Candle Jack
May 17 2009, 10:59 PM

When in doubt, DON'T act like Fluff (no offense Fluff, but some people don't know you're joking until they get to know you).

...Fluff's joking?
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Dracobolt
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Sometimes. Maybe. I think.

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Sundancer
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Necare
May 17 2009, 10:38 PM
First of all, in regards to you not caring about our respect: you'd better care, because without respect, none of us will take you seriously, Fluff isn't the only one who will act like Fluff toward you, and you'll probably end up getting yourself suspended or banned from this place. Of course, if you really don't care, than I see no problem. Our disapproval does have significance, because we've been here longer than you, and the admins' approval in particular decides your fate here.

Secondly, you might want to actually be here for a month or so before you post topics like the one that got modded. The Temple is pretty relaxed about sexual humor and slang, but that thread was mildly pornographic literature. Pretty shitty quality, I might add. It doesn't matter where you put it, and it doesn't matter if you wrote it or you copied and pasted it, we don't tolerate that kind of stuff here.

As for your quote about me, and accusing some of us of being black and white in regards to new users being trolls, you are sorely mistaken. For one, I would like to clarify that my comment was made in jest. If you had waited and checked out the Temple more, you would have realized that's just our brand of humor. (This also ties in to your modded topic.) In time you'll come to recognize the difference between individual members' seriousness, and our sense of humor.

As for us being on edge and sensitive about possible trolls, we have one in particular who has been very persistent, known and referred to as Grim Reapist. He has tried on numerous occasions to destroy the Temple and its community for nonsensical reasons known only to his own twisted mind. He has never been successful, but he has gone so far as to hire hackers to attempt to bring this place down. His most recent pathetic attempt was made shortly before you joined us.

I realize this post might come across as overly hostile and defensive, and for that I apologize. I'm just attempting to convey my opinion on the matter. Of course, I don't speak for the Temple, though I'm confident most of them will share my voice on this.


:luna:

I knew there was a reason I loved you, Neccy. =P

Pretty much what he said.

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And why does everything have to be so black and white with some of the user base in regards to new users being trolls? Refer to *
Are some of you honestly that self-absorbed that you think your disapproval of what I post, somehow has any significance? Oh boohoo, I won't ever be part of your e-clique. =[
I lost your respect? Big whoop. (Chances are) I'll never meet you in real life, so your respect is meaningless.


That's a nice thing to say to somebody, Griever. Really nice. Yeah, I'm totally self-absorbed. See, Kiki's right too. She mentioned that we're all really close here - we are. Sure, there may be the occasional fight, and nobody likes those. Those get solved, filed away in a neat little file cabinet that's a part of the Temple's past. Sometimes it's remembered, sometimes it's forgotten, sometimes people laugh about it. But hey, you join a community, it's because you want to meet and interact with people, right? Or in the case of our troll you mentioned, he joins to tear it down. -_- But Griever, the thing is, if you want to be a part of a community like this, it's better to stop the drama now rather than continue it. Saying you don't care is like saying you don't want to be a part of this community anyway, and if that's the case, why did you sign up, right?

The Temple has it's own brand of humour here, and a lot of it is sexual in nature, but we understand it's all for fun and never really post things so raw in nature, if that's the right word. It's more innuendo than anything. If you hang around and observe a little while longer, you'll see and understand a little more about the way we interact with each other and what are and aren't boundaries. When Kiki said people move on around here, and Adna said you can build that respect (that you obviously don't care about.) back up, they meant it. And I agree with them - I mean, just because I voiced a negative opinion on your one spam topic, doesn't mean I suddenly hate you and want to kill you over the internet. What irks me at the moment is that you obviously don't give a damn what I say, at all, and y'know what, that's fine with me - it's just not the type of thing members here like.

As Necade did, I apologize if this post seemed overly hostile, or defensive, or rude in any way. 'Specially since I did throw in some sarcasm there. Though, I would think it's justified... that's up to the others. I was, and mostly am willing to start over, no matter how cliche it sounds, but it seems you really aren't willing to do that. Let me know if you change your mind. As for the deleted topic, it wasn't just swearing that was the problem, it was the blatant sexual nature of it. It's strange what we do and don't tolerate around here, and you'll just have to hang around to see. I'm probably repeating myself by now, so I'll shut up, though I hope you listen a little to what we're saying. Some of your other topics were interesting, good ones, so it's not like I've got you defined as a troller or anything in my mind right now. Oh, I forgot, you don't care. Big whoopsie.

I'm curious what Satty and everybody else thinks of the matter too, by the way. As well as that particular mod.
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Gilgamesh
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May 18 2009, 07:36 AM
Candle Jack
May 17 2009, 10:59 PM

When in doubt, DON'T act like Fluff (no offense Fluff, but some people don't know you're joking until they get to know you).

...Fluff's joking?

I was trying to be nice *shrugs*
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Fluff
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Hello, Griever. We obviously haven't really been introduced. I'm Fluff. I am uncompromising, outspoken, and I generally don't give a shit what people say or think. Just ask the mods (I cannot [radio edit]ing stand about half of DEARLY LOVE shut up Adna I wasn't talking about you them). OH GOD I WAS DOING IT FOR THE LULZ*shot*

Now, you're new here, so you obviously don't understand that when we put a big button at the top of the page saying "THE RULES OF THE TEMPLE" we mean that you should click on that button and read the rules. And, of course, I can completely understand that if you DID read the rules, you could easily miss numbers 2 and 3 if you were completely blind. If you do happen to be blind, I'll quote those two rules for you, although since you're blind it won't do that much good.

Rule #2: DO NOT POST OFFENSIVE MATERIAL WITHOUT A CLEAR WARNING! This goes for everyone.

Rule #3: Do not post links to pornographic material.

(Actually, I think I broke both of those rules in one go once, but it was funny because Kuroi ended up setting pokemon porn as his desktop. I HAVE A SCREENSHOT TO PROVE IT!!!)

Now, I'm a jackass, so one of my biggest pleasures in life is beating the shit out of people over the internet, but quite frankly, I have more important idiots to deal with than you. Now, here's the thing. I met a troll-ish guy before on another forum who loved to play the "your opinion doesn't matter to me" card over and over again. What's more, he was better at it than you, and on a forum more accepting of it. Suffice it to say, that strategy isn't going to work for you. Trust me, if you're taking part in a community whose respect you don't care about, you're doing something wrong.

Right now, you're just a guy who got slapped hard on the wrist, and is getting all defensive and shit about it. That's cool, I understand the feeling--Satty and I had a big PM back-and-forth when I first came here about what a jackass I am, although being Satty he eventually relented and waved me on--but this whole self-absorbed insult you've got going for you is getting on my nerves, quite frankly. Now, just quit playing the "I don't care" card and the "you're self-absorbed because you think that me joining your online community means I care about your opinion" card, and we'll get along just fine.

Also, Necare was mistaken. I am the only one who will act like me towards you, because I am the only me here. Jacob will try, but he doesn't have rabies like I do. (Hey Jacob, Lent's over and I'm still alive, bitch!)
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*Jacob brutally rapes and murders Fluff

That's because you were buried deep on the backlog, you little queer-bag. You were one of the first to give me shit, and since I went with the most recent first, I had your name written down in blood (can't quite remember whose blood it was at the moment, but I'm sure it'll come to me.)

Thanks for reminding me, jackass! =D
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Sundancer
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Oh yeah, and Griever? ^That's Temple humour.

...Or I think it is. Like they all said, Fluff might not be joking at all any of the time. But what he said in his post? That wasn't a joke. And I agree with him.
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Seoulbowz
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I'm not going to read everything that has been said in reply to your post, hell, I'm not even going to read your whole post. What irritates me is that people [Radio Edit] up, get modded and suddenly they think the world is against them. Well, I got news for you, it isn't. So you [Radio Edit]ed up. Get over it, move on, and don't do it again. Next time you make one of these topics I will personally castrate you with a wooden spoon.
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Sound the horn and call the cry: "How many of them can we make die?"

Erm, so I'm gonna try and be a little more gentle than everyone else has been. As in, I won't swear at you and tell you to stop being a wimp or anything.

Anyway, they already explained what happened with Grim Reapist.

We're pretty tolerant here. And like I said in the other topic, I think it was just you getting a little carried away, trying to fit in, that sort of thing. It's gone now, you know not to do it again, no harm done. What you posted just happened to fall into the rather small category of stuff nobody here finds very amusing.

So, contrary to the impression you may get from the above replies, I don't think anybody here hates you. They're generally like this every time a serious topic comes up, so don't take it personally.
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

I didn't read any of this topic besides the first post.

Don't worry about, Griever. I really am uncomfortable with how some 'welcomes' are done at this board. I'm very sad that you sense cliques at the Temple. Just take my word for it that it's humor that's gone too far.

I was the mod that deleted that first post and changed the topic title. I did it because I thought that some of our female members would find it offensive, not because I thought you were a troll. I understand completely what made you thought it was fine to post that (and I'd like to address those members as well some time), and so I thought nothing of it. It was just a topic that was made on a whim that just happened to over the poorly-defined "line" that we have here. No hard feelings, no respect lost. Being clique-y is lame.

The reason some people are crying 'troll' is because we've been under attack by a person who seems determined to bring this forum down. He's hired multiple hackers, and has explicitly stated he has enlisted the help of an 'army' of forum trolls to come and... spam this place or something, I dunno. I wish people had taken more time before crying troll. That's Joe's job (another inactive member, lulz).

So, if you're not fed up with those that have not behaved in a sterling manner, I cordially ask you to stick around at the Temple.

EDIT: I just read this topic, and am humiliated at the hostile responses. Griever, accept my apology on the behalf of the jerks in this topic.
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Dracobolt
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What those two said, basically.

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Griever
May 17 2009, 07:14 PM
And why does everything have to be so black and white with some of the user base in regards to new users being trolls? Refer to *
Are some of you honestly that self-absorbed that you think your disapproval of what I post, somehow has any significance? Oh boohoo, I won't ever be part of your e-clique. =[
I lost your respect? Big whoop. (Chances are) I'll never meet you in real life, so your respect is meaningless.


/observation

Well, here's the problem: This is a social board. We post messages, chat, and RP together as one big happy family. We know how far the jokes should go, and when to use them. As a result, however, new users are pushed off to the side and ignored for the most part because they are either intimidated or excessively encouraged by our rambunctious behavior, but nevertheless "welcomed". Even the RPs are hard to get into, with all the effort that had already been put into it. I view this as something that should be corrected in the future.

As far as what you've contributed to the activity of this board, I'm not liking most of it. My first impression of you is a conceited, yet distant tween/teenager hiding behind a seemingly impenetrable wall called the computer screen. I'm hoping that you'll improve as time goes by, assuming that you'll stay. However, if you're dead certain of leaving, I will tell you right now that I will be happy either way you choose. I've found it very difficult for members to assimilate into the Temple's mood. Even I feel a bit excluded at times. Those who choose to stay, however, turn out to be well respected individuals who know the meaning of preserving the respect of their peers, their superiors, and those below them as well. You must learn to appreciate this connection in order to us to appreciate what you contribute to the Temple of Kraden.
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Adnarel
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I'd rather be outside.

Sensing massive amounts of Internet Tough Guy in this topic. If the name-calling doesn't stop, the topic gets locked. I'm appalled at the behavior in here, and request all of this ridiculous judgmental behavior to stop at once. This is NOT the Temple of Kraden that I'm familiar with.
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Uh, was I wrong in saying that? I DID assume a lot, but I wouldn't think...
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Sundancer
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Would that be me, as well, Adna? If so, I do apologize, though I only was trying to explain things. I'll admit the sarcasm was unnecessary, though I also admit at being a little miffed at the time. After all, it was sort of my comment that incited (partially) this whole thing, or at least his saying he doesn't care what we think of him. I do still keep the attitude I mentioned earlier, that I'm willing to start anew. At any rate, if my post was problematic, Adna, I apologize but I still hold true to what I said. Perhaps I was a little harsh, but the basic meaning is there and that's my opinion on this.
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