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Pikachu, alone in the wild; A discussion about Pokemon in the Wild
Topic Started: Jul 23 2008, 07:38 PM (1,313 Views)
ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

I always wanted to have serious discussions like this. How would each Pokemon survive in the wild, their habitat, etc? This is if a human does not come into their lives. When I mention one Pokemon I usually include their evolutions too. I don't feel like typing "Bulbasaur and evos" over and over again, so assume I'm talking about Ivysaur and Venusaur too, unless I make an exception.

EDIT: I'm changing the topic title at every new update. Check the latest new post for the update.

Bulbasaur's main survival tools are its vines. The vines are used much like an elephant's trunk as they are prehensile. They are tools for getting food in its mouth, cleanliness and defense from predators. Bulbasaur would not live very long in the wild if the vines are damaged or amputated. They would last a good long while living in captivity without them as they can squat down and eat food off the floor without fear of predators. In the wild they may do that as well but they are very vulnerable to becoming someone else's meal.

Other defenses from predators include their powder attacks such as poison and stun spore. They spay in the face of their attacker and run away quickly if the defender is a Bulbasaur and sometimes Ivysaur. Ivysaur and Venusaur will sometimes kill or seriously injure their attacker.

Bulbasaurs are not sexually mature. Though they can breed in captivity, they will almost never breed in the wild. Ivysaur and Venusaur are able to reproduce in the wild. There are more male Ivysaurs than females so attracting mates is very competitive for the males. A female Ivysaur in heat will emit a very sweet smelling odor to attract her potential mate. This smell can reach miles away. If there is more than one male, they will fight for their right to mate.

Mothers raise their young alone. Ivysaur will stay with the young hiding under dense vegetation to snatch an unaware prey for herself and her young with a quick grab of the vine.

Bulbasaurs are obligate carnivores. They are part plant life themselves and can live for a few days without food as the plant can keep them alive for a bit with water and sunlight but their animal needs are important too. They may eat vegetation but they will soon be malnourished. They can eat many things even poisonous Pokemon as they are part poison themselves. They hide in grass or other plantation, get close to the prey and disable them with stun spore or sleep powder. Then they kill their prey with a few vine whips. Then it is lunch time for them.
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Momentime
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uh oh

What about razor leaf? They can use that to chop stuff up, chop apples off trees and such, and in self defense.

Otherwise, you pretty much got it.
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Erik the Appreciator
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All this is very interesting because it's like we can assume this is how Bulbasaur family members would act in the wild even though the games' Pokedex flavor texts don't give any coverage of that. (I found the most interesting part to be how it can be safe for them to eat poisonous Pokemon because they're part poisonous themselves.)

I notice Bulbapedia has sections about material like "habitat" and "diet": Check out Bulbasaur's page here for those who haven't seen it. ;)
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The Sin Thesis


Righto!

I for one, have found the nature of the body itself most peculiar. Any attempts at a real life rendering have been a creepy frog with perhaps elephantine legs. But the image of frog texture doesn't match up with my mental image... I always envisioned an ent-like texture, wot?
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

I don't like Pokedexes much. I will never use the anime for references either nearly all the Pokemon are herbivores not to scare the little kiddies.

I'll think of something with Razor Leaf, though. I'm not going to use any TM learned attack either for any of this.
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

The Sin Thesis
Jul 23 2008, 07:52 PM
Righto!

I for one, have found the nature of the body itself most peculiar.  Any attempts at a real life rendering have been a creepy frog with perhaps elephantine legs.  But the image of frog texture doesn't match up with my mental image...  I always envisioned an ent-like texture, wot?

In the dungeon games, Bulbasaur's movement is hopping like a frog. Ivysaur and Venusaur move more like regular quadrupeds. In Brawl, Ivysaur's dash animation is also how most animals run, barely anything resembling a frog's movement.

Also please do add to the discussion. I'm doing Charmander next time. It's gonna be a bit more complex because Charizard gains the ability to fly.
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Erik the Appreciator
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Good eye on the hopping detail there. :lol:

Sure, Bulbasaur can be likened to a frog or a saurian depending on one's POV. It could even be described as a frog-like saurian... ;) Maybe the fact it's a FROG-like saurian that grows big and heavy over time is what would explain how it can hop around when it's slow and light as a Bulbasaur but can only lumber about when it's a Venusaur.
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

I really hope you all enjoyed my mockumentary.

Razor leaf addition and more:


Razor leaf can sometimes be used as an option for defending itself but it still isn't the best way to defend from a predator up close. A thrown leaf needs distance to hit a predator to inflict pain. Up close and it is useless. The best way to make it a defensive option is to aim the leaf right into the eye of the predator.

Razor leaf can also be used to obtain food from trees either by hitting prey off the tree or getting fruit for fiber.

Barely any body wants to mess with a Venusaur. A Venusaur is quite difficult to take down, can kill and even disable as it has access to it's nasty powder attacks.

A mother can have around 1 to 3 Bulbasaurs. She teaches her young how to defend and catch prey. A Bulbasaur will leave the nest still as a Bulbasaur but with the knowledge of the dangerous wild.
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Erik the Appreciator
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In the movie short Pikachu's vacation, Bulbasaur did that where it shot a couple razor leaves at an apple dangling from a tree to make it fall and give it to Togepi. There's probably been a lot of normal anime episodes where it did the same thing with other fruits on trees...

I think this can be a cool topic series... :)
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

Remember, anyone can make their own topic. Even Pokemon already done on. Show your take on the specie.

I think I'm gonna do all the starters first.
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Bane Martius Agni
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Bulbasaur is the bestest. I'm glad you started here.

As it is, I can't think of anything to say, but this topic owns.
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The Grim Lich
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Interesting concept.

So it would be all right if I presented my ideas on, say, the Dratini line in another topic? Just wanting to make sure I don't infringe on your idea. ^^;
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ReidAlvein
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Ignoring the fact that Bulbasaur is a frog or something, not only the vines (Vine Whip) or leafs (Razor Leafs) are his only way of defending, in fact he has access to different moves, like the common Tackle or Solarbeam, which he would hardly use, if he's on danger he will win enough time to charge up. Let's also not forget about Leech Seed, if a Bulbasaur makes use of that move with the right Poison or Paralyze, his opponent might have a hard time to go against him.
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

Grim, you can make your own topic. You may even post it here. I'm not sure yet if I'll make a separate topic each time or put them all here, changing the topic title each time. I made a post that you can have your own take on the subject.

As for Tackle and Solarbeam.


Though its vines are its primary weapons, Bulbasaur can also hit its enemies with a painful tackle. However it's not very useful as a defensive option on bigger foes. Ivysaur and Venusaur may use it more as theirs can hurt and even cause injuries. are much larger in size. Tackling is almost never used against its prey as a Bulbasaur would not want to hit the prey away then to have it stolen by a scavenger.

Solarbeam is quite a risky move in the wild. It is almost never usedand with good reason. It needs to be charged on a regular day. No predator would give Bulbasaur the chance to defend itself. On a sunny day, no such charging is needed. Nobody will dare mess with a Bulbasaur, especially a Venusaur, on a day like this.
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

For many centuries, there was always a fear and bias against fire type Pokemon. From beliefs that they cause forest fires to being seen as plain old pests who cause a lot of damage, the fire types were hunted down to either extinction or endangerment. Few fire types exist in the wild even recently because of these fears that people hold on to.

The magnificent Charizard is no different. They can be seen as a vicious and cruel Pokemon because of their intimidating look. Humans and the Charizard were seen as mortal rivals for thousands of years, killing off each other. Charmanders and Charmander eggs were hunted down for the belief that they have magical qualities and health benefits. Charizard numbers dwindled and are now endangered

In recent times, it became illegal to hunt or capture a Charmander and their older forms. The Charmander a young trainer picks up today is bred in captivity. With this recent law, people hope that Charizards will repopulate in the wild once again.

Charizards are far from a vicious Pokemon. Though they are carnivores, they are social and make good parents. Charizards live together in groups with a pecking order similar to that of Houndour packs. Top male Charizards get the right to mate and they best of the prey while lower ranking Charizards get scraps. Charizards, like other Pokemon bred to be a starting Pokemon for a young trainer, strangely have a higher rate of males born to females. Females also have a pecking order. The best female gets the best male and most likely gets the best offspring born to them.

Charizards prefer canyon like areas and other dry areas to live. They live in high altitude areas usually in an enclosed area, naturally formed by rock or they break down rock to make it a more suitable habitat to live in. There can be around 20 Charizards or more, and that's not even counting the Charmanders and Charmeleons.

Charizards are the most important in the clan. Charmanders and Charmeleons don't join the hunt or get the right to mate until they become full fledged Charizards. They rely on their parents for food and they fight among themselves for the best portions. Charizards are good parents. The parents will stay as mates until one of them dies (sometimes even mates for life) and they stick with their young until they are adults. If the parents are needed to hunt, sometimes another Charizard will babysit for them.

Both males and females hunt but different ones hunt every time. It is normally those of the higher pecking order who hunt while the weaker ones watch the young. Multiple prey is brought to the clan. Charizards leave their habitat and sometimes can fly over to a completely different climate to get prey such as in a forest.

Despite old beliefs, Charizards do not burn their prey alive with fire. That may be a good thing too, as there is less risk of forests getting on fire. They prefer to kill off their prey with teeth and claws. They only use fire to soften the kill for their young, for defense, and to maintain pecking order within their clan as there is always constant fighting to be the alpha male or female.

To prevent inbreeding, sometimes newly evolved Charizards leave the nest to find other clans to join. Gaining acceptance is a long and dangerous process of fighting top leaders of the new clan, but this may be the only chance for lower ranking Charizards to be top of the game with their new clan.

Probably one of the most fascinating thing about a Charizard is its wings. A Charmander is born wingless and remains wingless in its adolescent stage as a Charmeleon. Is it magical when Charizard gains the ability to fly? X-rays and other scans were conducted on all three stages of this fire type. It was also done on an egg. A discovery was made that wings are forming in the inside of a Charmander already. There is quite a lot of cell activity inside the back of a Charmander and it's even more rapid in a Charmeleon. Looking inside a Charmeleon the winds seem to be already almost formed and ready to come out as soon as it evolves. Some trainers claim that their Charmeleons act a bit more nasty in the Charemeleon stage, compared to the Charmander and Charizard stage. It seems the reason is that they are quite hormonal due to rapid wing growth.
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Bane Martius Agni
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This topic is, again, win.
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ShinyGirafarig
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Giraffes are adorable.

Thanks, I really enjoy the compliments. I happen to visualize my fanfic mockumentary as I type these.
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Erik the Appreciator
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Very nice. I really liked the part about the cell activity brewing in a Charmander or Charmeleon's back, and how it might be the reason why Charmeleons are more brutish than the other two stages. :D
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Crash
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Wheey! I've became a human being!! I am very handsam!

The part I like most is your explanation of why there aren't too many Fire-types in existence, as that's one thing that I've always been upset by in the Pokemon series. I want a Bug/Fire type ant now!!!
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Delfeir
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Adachi is not amused.

This topic would be perfect but for one reason...

You don't have David Attenborough giving a voiceover for the information.

Otherwise, it's epic. ^_^
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